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Old 05-10-2014, 10:16 PM  
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The Chiefs had pressing needs after a rough free agency, and they still have massive questions on the offensive line and at wide receiver. Dee Ford is a nice long-term gamble, but should start his career as a part-time player. Third-round cornerback Phillip Gaines seems more like a developmental prospect. Fourth-round RB/WR/return/cornerback/football player De'Anthony Thomas is a wild card. This was a draft in which the Chiefs needed some instant-impact players, and it's hard to see them here.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...y-draft-grades

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Old 05-11-2014, 07:46 AM   #91
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The draft is over and Avery or Hemmingway are still the projected starting WR opposite Bowe.

That is a big part of why the Chiefs draft is getting bad reviews.

The team's biggest need and they did nothing to address it.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:49 AM   #92
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That's a bullshit answer. He made specific points. Where was he wrong with them?

I think the premise is wrong.
We've had a "draft for need" mindset for so long, it's what we are used to. This regime, for better or worse, is drafting for quality, and btw, actually touched on some areas of need.
What I personally like about it is that strategy gives us more flexibility in both the draft and FA in future years. It also forces other teams to have to worry about us a lot more in the draft, as it's more difficult to bullseye in on who/what we are going to draft.
It may fail, and in this early part of the process it leaves some scary holes, but I'm personally a fan of it.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:49 AM   #93
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:51 AM   #94
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Wrong on 2 points.

Our biggest need was ignored altogether, and we didn't draft a DE in this scheme.
I'm assuming you mean safety.

They clearly think that need will be filled with Abdullah/Commings.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:53 AM   #95
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Seattle got an F on their 2012 draft.

http://thebiglead.com/2014/02/06/mel...-gave-it-an-f/

Kiper gave them an D-

Bleacher Report an F

Prisco gave a D

SI a C
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:54 AM   #96
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I thought Abdullah played well for being out of the league that long. Cummings who knows we can't count on anything. Abdullah has a track record of being a pretty good player.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:54 AM   #97
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Seattle got an F on their 2012 draft.

http://thebiglead.com/2014/02/06/mel...-gave-it-an-f/

Kiper gave them an D-

Bleacher Report an F

Prisco gave a D

SI a C
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:57 AM   #98
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I'm assuming you mean safety.

They clearly think that need will be filled with Abdullah/Commings.
I know.

I am just not as confident as they appear to be, but they do at least have the benefit of working with these guys, which is the reason I am not complaining about the draft.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:07 AM   #99
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Wrong , our biggest need was addressed with a DE and CB
Neither of those were our biggest need. I wouldnt have even put either of those positions in the top 3 of team needs.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:11 AM   #100
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I know.

I am just not as confident as they appear to be, but they do at least have the benefit of working with these guys, which is the reason I am not complaining about the draft.
I'm still worried about the secondary. So much fail.

At least Lewis and Robinson are gone. It has to get better.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:14 AM   #101
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I'm assuming you mean safety.

They clearly think that need will be filled with Abdullah/Commings.
I don't think that's true. I think what they're saying is they'll get a Safety when they find one they like. They're not going to overpay in free agency or pass on a guy via the draft they think is BPA because they're going after a need.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:20 AM   #102
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anyone who criticizes taking a pass rusher w/ ford's measurables at #23 in the draft is a ****ing idiot...the kind of idiot who thinks matt cassel is a franchise QB

Gaines is nickle CB who projects to a starter, and one of the fastest CBs in the draft who just also managed to record the most pass breakups in college.....but the idiot who thinks matt cassel is a franchise QB is not impressed

tell me about all the day one starters drafted in the 3rd...please be specific, the way you spent years specifically saying matt cassel was a franchise QB

thomas is a wild card? 3rd fastest skill player in the draft who scored 46 tds in college is a wild card in the 4th round? by wild card do you mean matt cassel is a franchise QB?

omg, we still have a couple of positions with questions!!

like every other ****ing other team in the nfl not named seattle..thank ****ing christ we didn't spend another high pick on OL just to satisfy idiots like you...the kind of idiot who thinks matt cassel is a franchise QB

we drafted a pass rusher over OL...and you're complaining about it...which is what should be expected from the guy spent 1000 days giving Pioli a rim job

no mention of the absolute steal of the draft value we got in the 5th...but then you thought matt cassel was a franchise QB, so of course you are too ****ing stupid to even recognize it

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Old 05-11-2014, 08:45 AM   #103
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Neither of those were our biggest need. I wouldnt have even put either of those positions in the top 3 of team needs.
Having somebody, ANYBODY that could rush the passer behind Houston and Hali, was a must. Hali has chronic foot issues, he's gonna miss some time.

And I would argue that outside of FS, CB was the biggest need on the team. You only have to watch all the 3-step drops the last half of the season to see it.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:48 AM   #104
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Having somebody, ANYBODY that could rush the passer behind Houston and Hali, was a must. Hali has chronic foot issues, he's gonna miss some time.

And I would argue that outside of FS, CB was the biggest need on the team. You only have to watch all the 3-step drops the last half of the season to see it.
ILB, S, WR, and OL all day over CB.

We have nothing next to DJ, still question marks at FS, our WR set is embarrassing, and we have practice squad players at G. Yet we have Flowers, Smith, and Cooper as our top 3 CBs.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:48 AM   #105
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Well, we have to re-sign Houston, Berry, and Smith.

The more I think about it, Scott Pioli really left this team in a ****ing mess.
I'm glad Pioli is gone; but he left this team with a ton of cap room. Dorsey cut a huge number of players and then signed Bowe and Colquitt to HUGE contracts, franchised Albert, paid a huge number for a backup QB that never had meaningful NFL playing time, and signed a rag tag group of free agents to use the rest.

My point is that Pioli ruined us with his drafting (except for J. Houston), not with the cap space.
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