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Old 05-11-2014, 12:50 PM  
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Jeff Flanagan: "Tyler Bray slow to grasp pro system"

http://msn.foxsports.com/kansas-city...-murray-051014

In a puff piece on Aaron Murray, an interesting tidbit:

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The Chiefs already have starter Alex Smith, backup Chase Daniel and developmental quarterback Tyler Bray.

The Chiefs could save $1.4 million if they were to release Daniel. Bray, though, seems the most vulnerable. Although the Chiefs love his arm strength, he was slow to grasp the pro system.

Murray likely won't have those issues since he already has played in a pro passing system at Georgia.
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Old 05-11-2014, 02:10 PM   #46
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Old 05-11-2014, 02:15 PM   #47
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Matt Hasselbeck and Mark Brunnell should be included
Brunell to an extent, but Reid probably had pretty much no personnel say with him... Hasselbeck, I'd have to disagree, he's 6'4.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:20 PM   #48
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Who would you rather have of the three. Anyone remember how good Daniel looked in the San Diego game? Anyone remember the name of his mentor - that short guy in New Orleans. Bray will be the odd man out. As he should be.
Anyone remember who was Matt Cassel's mentor in New England?
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:23 PM   #49
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Reid doesn't really give a flip about size, he's used undersized guys throughout his career... Detmer, Garcia, Kolb, now Murray... I'm sure theres more.



I'm on your side with Bray, but don't look to his size as some kind of saving grace...

Kolb is undersized?
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:25 PM   #50
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Yeah, if the understudy has any real talent begging to be whittled into shape and brought forth, a HOF mentor is a great thing to have... but a turds a turd no matter how much of a genius his teacher is.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:27 PM   #51
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Kolb is undersized?
Eh, at 6'3 220 you probably have me there, he honestly doesn't look that big though.

Even though its probably a lot closer to 6'2 212, he isn't exactly small.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:34 PM   #52
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:36 PM   #53
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:41 PM   #54
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They need to cut Daniel.

I believe they will he is an expense they don't need.

I expect the QB order will be Smith, Murray then Bray.
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:51 PM   #55
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Be honest, you have absolutely no way of knowing whether or not Murray can be better than Daniel at this point.

No idea, no clue... be honest.
Nope.

But based on his size and measurables and tendencies at the same level, he is, at best, the same guy. And Daniel definitely had more poise at the college level. Murray did some really stupid shit throughout his career.

I fail to see the reason why people would be excited by Murray when he's the same guy as Daniel with less experience and less athleticism. Plus his mechanics aren't very good.

What do you get with Murray that you don't already have in Daniel?

Nothing.
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Old 05-11-2014, 04:03 PM   #56
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What do you get with Murray that you don't already have in Daniel?
The same guy for a lot less money?
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Old 05-11-2014, 04:16 PM   #57
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Nope.

But based on his size and measurables and tendencies at the same level, he is, at best, the same guy. And Daniel definitely had more poise at the college level. Murray did some really stupid shit throughout his career.

I fail to see the reason why people would be excited by Murray when he's the same guy as Daniel with less experience and less athleticism. Plus his mechanics aren't very good.

What do you get with Murray that you don't already have in Daniel?

Nothing.
Well he's no first round guard, that's for sure.
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Old 05-11-2014, 04:43 PM   #59
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"Was"

He has a grasp of it now
Was still means that he is behind. If he struggled he probably always will struggle.
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How the **** is Murray going to leap frog Daniel when he's basically Daniel with a worse release, less poise, less athleticism, less experience, etc.? He's a poor man's Chase Daniel.

They are the same ****ing guy with the exception that Daniel didn't shit down his leg with the regularity that Murray did.

Anybody thinking that Murray gives you anything over Daniel is a retard. Flat out, full on retard.

Murray was a ****ing waste of a pick.

**** that guy. **** that pick.
You are so full of shit on this.
There is not one scout that has said anything like this.
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