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Old 05-11-2014, 12:50 PM  
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Jeff Flanagan: "Tyler Bray slow to grasp pro system"

http://msn.foxsports.com/kansas-city...-murray-051014

In a puff piece on Aaron Murray, an interesting tidbit:

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The Chiefs already have starter Alex Smith, backup Chase Daniel and developmental quarterback Tyler Bray.

The Chiefs could save $1.4 million if they were to release Daniel. Bray, though, seems the most vulnerable. Although the Chiefs love his arm strength, he was slow to grasp the pro system.

Murray likely won't have those issues since he already has played in a pro passing system at Georgia.
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:54 PM   #76
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It won't be Daniel who is cut. You'd then have no one behind Alex Smith who's ever taken a snap as a pro.
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:57 PM   #77
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It won't be Daniel who is cut. You'd then have no one behind Alex Smith who's ever taken a snap as a pro.
I agree, I think that makes it unlikely it's Daniel. But it's probably happened before. Depends on what their goals are this year.

The bigger issue here is people are acting like Bray is not a UDFA. Cutting him is not the atrocity cutting a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be. It's not like they've invested that much in him.
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:58 PM   #78
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http://msn.foxsports.com/kansas-city...-murray-051014

In a puff piece on Aaron Murray, an interesting tidbit:
Tyler can pack his bags...he has been replaced
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:00 PM   #79
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The bigger issue here is people are acting like Bray is not a UDFA. Cutting him is not the atrocity cutting a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be. It's not like they've invested that much in him.
No one is acting like it is except for maybe Tomahawk, since he's bobbed off his dick a couple times.

Cutting Daniel has no lesser effect on this team other than saving on the cap and getting rid of a useless pos who's only ever held a clipboard in his life and is making $3mil a year.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:01 PM   #80
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Daniel has 1 start. He's not some seasoned vet. If Murray isn't on IR he's toast.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:01 PM   #81
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No one is acting like it is except for maybe Tomahawk, since he's bobbed off his dick a couple times.

Cutting Daniel has no lesser effect on this team other than saving on the cap and getting rid of a useless pos who's only ever held a clipboard in his life and is making $3mil a year.
Exactly.

Some people here aren't too high on Aaron Murray because they see him as just another Chase Daniel-type backup QB for the team.

Uhh... so tell me why we're paying out the ass for two of these ****ers, then? Get rid of the one we're shelling out $3 million to this season.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:04 PM   #82
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Daniel has 1 start. He's not some seasoned vet. If Murray isn't on IR he's toast.
He's not going to IR. The doctors cleared him to begin offseason workouts and practices with his new team before the draft started.

I don't expect the Chiefs to make the right move and cut Daniel. NFL coaches are bizarrely stupid about this kind of shit. But anybody acting like the franchise would consider for even a single instant going with Bray over Murray is a ****ing idiot.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:05 PM   #83
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Who was Andy's backup his last year in Philly? Wasn't it a rookie 3rd rounder?
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:07 PM   #84
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No one is acting like it is except for maybe Tomahawk, since he's bobbed off his dick a couple times.

Cutting Daniel has no lesser effect on this team other than saving on the cap and getting rid of a useless pos who's only ever held a clipboard in his life and is making $3mil a year.
I'm not a big fan of Daniel to be honest... but Sean Payton and Andy Reid both felt he grasped the pro game enough to be a backup QB. He's obviously doing something right.

And to be fair Daniel played well last year against a team playing for a playoff spot. Odds are that's probably more than Bray will ever do in this league.

Now if it's simply a money issue, then fair enough. But there's nothing actually on the field that dictates this move.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:09 PM   #85
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And to be fair Daniel played well last year against a team playing for a playoff spot. Odds are that's probably more than Bray will ever do in this league.
You know who else played good in 1 game recently? Matt Flynn.
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I agree, I think that makes it unlikely it's Daniel. But it's probably happened before. Depends on what their goals are this year.

The bigger issue here is people are acting like Bray is not a UDFA. Cutting him is not the atrocity cutting a 2nd or 3rd round pick would be. It's not like they've invested that much in him.
I don't think they gave Daniel a big contract because they thought he had a chance to be the starter someday. They gave him one because they thought he would be exactly what he is, a veteran backup who will be familiar with the offense.

Sure, Daniel is overpaid, but the ink is long since dry on that contract and and free agency is over this year, so cutting him isn't going to make the team appreciably better.
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Murray should surplant Daniels. Maybe Reid's in love with Bray's size.
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You know who else played good in 1 game recently? Matt Flynn.
That's true. But we didn't sign Daniel to a $26 million contract, or make him the starter, so I don't see how that's relevant to what happened with Matt Flynn. Daniel did exactly what you hope your backup QB will do, just like Flynn did. I don't think anyone advocated making Daniel a starter, unless I missed it.
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That's true. But we didn't sign Daniel to a $26 million contract, or make him the starter, so I don't see how that's relevant to what happened with Matt Flynn. Daniel did exactly what you hope your backup QB will do, just like Flynn did. I don't think anyone advocated making Daniel a starter, unless I missed it.
I wasn't making reference to him becoming a starter, he never became that anyway. I was referencing him being a pos, like Daniel.

I never ever want to see Daniel become the starter. I don't know if I want to see Murray or Bray become the starter, but only 1 of the 3 make too much ****ing money.
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