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Old 05-11-2014, 03:45 PM  
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Who Would You Cut? Bray or Daniel?

The battle of the year is here, and this time it's with a poll.

I am guessing this decision will not need to be made this year, because of Murray's injury.

But who would you cut? Bray is inexperienced, but Daniel is eating cap (**** you John Dorsey), that much money is absolutely ludicrous for a backup qb.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:04 PM   #76
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Chase played a fine game against the Chargers. When was the last time a Chiefs quarterback played that well in San Diego?
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:31 PM   #77
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I don't think Murray would have ever been a 1st rounder, because his measurables are just average.
Actually if you factor in his height, most NFL teams consider his measurables borderline scary.

Not saying I agree or disagree. Just saying that QBs of his height are shunned by most NFL teams.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:33 PM   #78
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If you remove height, Murray's a first rounder, if you remove the ACL thing, Murray's a first rounder, If you remove both, he's a top 5 pick probably.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:36 PM   #79
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Actually if you factor in his height, most NFL teams consider his measurables borderline scary.

Not saying I agree or disagree. Just saying that QBs of his height are shunned by most NFL teams.
Apart from his height, he's got a slight build. His arm is more or less average I think.

I have liked him since I started seeing him in the SEC though. He's an "it-factor" kind of pick.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:38 PM   #80
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:40 PM   #81
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Apart from his height, he's got a slight build. His arm is more or less average I think.

I have liked him since I started seeing him in the SEC though. He's an "it-factor" kind of pick.
Yeah, I don't see "it". I see a guy that feasted on lesser competition (for the most part, he improved quite a bit his senior year) and wilted when the shit hit the fan.

Sure he made some great throws at times but the times where he just took a team on his back and willed them to a victory were rare.
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If you remove height, Murray's a first rounder, if you remove the ACL thing, Murray's a first rounder, If you remove both, he's a top 5 pick probably.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:48 PM   #83
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I guess if we are writing the season off I'd go with Bray. Heaven help us if Alex gets hurt.
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Chase Daniel: 6'0" 225 lbs
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You do realize Aaron Murray is 6' right?
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Yeah, I don't see "it". I see a guy that feasted on lesser competition (for the most part, he improved quite a bit his senior year) and wilted when the shit hit the fan.

Sure he made some great throws at times but the times where he just took a team on his back and willed them to a victory were rare.
It's a legitimate concern that he didn't play as well against top competition, but if you want to make argument from silence, his chance to make his case for the draft would have been the part of his senior season he didn't get to play. And late round QBs are going to have some dings.

From the purely subjective world of intangibles I was impressed with him every time I saw him play. Definitely some bias at work, since I saw more of him than any of the other QBs in the draft apart from Manziel, so it's likely I would overrate Murray versus the field just out of familiarity.

But, if you have two late rounders and one has a big arm but lacks intangibles (Well, is Tyler Bray) and another who lacks ideal physical specifications but seems to have everything else, the second one seems like the better risk to me.
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Chase Daniel: 6'0" 225 lbs
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No way is Chase 6'... btw...
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You do realize Aaron Murray is 6' right?
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No way is Chase 6'... btw...
I want to see a pic of Daniel & Murray standing side by side.
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It's a legitimate concern that he didn't play as well against top competition, but if you want to make argument from silence, his chance to make his case for the draft would have been the part of his senior season he didn't get to play. And late round QBs are going to have some dings.

From the purely subjective world of intangibles I was impressed with him every time I saw him play. Definitely some bias at work, since I saw more of him than any of the other QBs in the draft apart from Manziel, so it's likely I would overrate Murray versus the field just out of familiarity.

But, if you have two late rounders and one has a big arm but lacks intangibles (Well, is Tyler Bray) and another who lacks ideal physical specifications but seems to have everything else, the second one seems like the better risk to me.
Oh, I absolutely agree with you on pretty much all of this.
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You do realize Aaron Murray is 6' right?
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