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Old 05-12-2014, 08:48 PM  
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LNBS: Aaron Murray will be our Nick Foles

I think both guys waited a year too long to enter the draft.

If Nick Foles had come out after his junior year, he would have had a chance to be a first round pick. If Aaron Murray came out last year, he would have, too. Heck, Tony Dungy said on espn last year that he would take Aaron Murray first overall if he had come out.

I know some here have said the guy won't ever have a chance to start, but I really think the kid can do everything Alex Smith did last year and then some, if given the chance.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:39 PM   #31
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A big arm is overrated. All you need is better than a wet noodle arm, and Murray definitely has an adequate arm.

I agree with BossChief. Murray meets all of Foles's elements.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:40 PM   #32
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How far would Russel Wilson have fell if he blew out his knee in November of his final year in college?
That's a good question and gives me pause for thought.

I didn't really see a lot of Wilson in college, so I have no foundation to speculate.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:43 PM   #33
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Murray's arm is just as strong as Brees arm. IMO it's stronger, but that's subjective. Dude pushed the ball down field for Georgia every game.

Not sure where this nonsense is coming from that he has a weak arm.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:45 PM   #34
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Which games aainst good defenses did he struggle in last year?

298 yards 4tds 1int and a rushing td against LSU
309 yards 4tds 0ints against S Carolina
415 yards 2td passing 2rushing tds 1int against Auburn

I'm struggling to find the bad games from last year...
I think he might be talking about how it seemed that Murray seemed to come up short late in big games.

I tend to blame Richt and the offensive staff, but I could see how that might color an opinion.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:45 PM   #35
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Only one problem. Foles is actually good.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:46 PM   #36
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Murray's arm is just as strong as Brees arm. Dude pushed the ball down field for Georgia every game.

Not sure where this nonsense is coming from that he has a weak arm.
Brees doesn't have a strong arm.

He makes his money with accuracy and anticipation.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:47 PM   #37
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I think he might be talking about how it seemed that Murray seemed to come up short late in big games.

I tend to blame Richt and the offensive staff, but I could see how that might color an opinion.
I thought that's where he was going with that and that's why I was trying to lead this back to Nick Foles.

Foles "came up short" a lot as a senior and lost a lot of shoot outs. I think that's part of what knocked his stock down, too.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:48 PM   #38
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Every 6-0 tall white quarterback is automatically Drew Brees.

Sort of how every small, white slot receiver is Wes Welker.
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I thought that's where he was going with that and that's why I was trying to lead this back to Nick Foles.

Foles "came up short" a lot as a senior and lost a lot of shoot outs. I think that's part of what knocked his stock down, too.
Yeah, I agree.

I really liked Foles coming out too.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:50 PM   #40
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Brees doesn't have a strong arm.

He makes his money with accuracy and anticipation.
What I'm saying is his arm isn't a liability to his game.

If a receiver has a step on his man on a deep route, Aaron Murray's arm isn't gonna keep him from completing those passes in the NFL. His arm is plenty strong enough to throw the deep comeback, deep outs, basically every route he would ever be asked to throw in this offense.
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Every 6-0 tall white quarterback is automatically Drew Brees.

Sort of how every small, white slot receiver is Wes Welker.
Russel Wilson isn't Drew Brees.

And Chase Daniel sure as hell isn't either.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:52 PM   #42
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:52 PM   #43
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Manning does alright with a noodle arm.
Manning has a noodle arm because of his injury.

The fact that you are evening using Peyton Manning to defend 5th round pick Aaron Murray is a ****ing reach of a counter argument in itself.
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This guy has 1st round talent. Definitely not available in the 5th without the injury. That and height I guess.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:54 PM   #45
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A big arm is overrated. All you need is better than a wet noodle arm, and Murray definitely has an adequate arm.

I agree with BossChief. Murray meets all of Foles's elements.
Didn't he have a bad pro day or workout? Maybe that's where it started? Who knows.....I wouldn't say it's the strongest arm, but it's plenty strong enough from games I've seen him in.
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