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Old 05-12-2014, 08:48 PM  
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LNBS: Aaron Murray will be our Nick Foles

I think both guys waited a year too long to enter the draft.

If Nick Foles had come out after his junior year, he would have had a chance to be a first round pick. If Aaron Murray came out last year, he would have, too. Heck, Tony Dungy said on espn last year that he would take Aaron Murray first overall if he had come out.

I know some here have said the guy won't ever have a chance to start, but I really think the kid can do everything Alex Smith did last year and then some, if given the chance.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:44 AM   #91
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Nick Foles' measurable >>>>>>> Aaron Murray's measurables.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:45 AM   #92
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Get that out of here.

Everything written about Murray on the Internet is a lie.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:47 AM   #93
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Thanks for your input, Carl Peterson.
Too bad he's pretty much right.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:50 AM   #94
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It's a complete logical fallacy to claim Murray can't be Brees or Wilson because he was selected at the 163rd pick in the draft.
It's also a complete logical fallacy to suggest that he can when really none of the evidence supports it.

Aaron Murray has a lot of things to like. He put up great numbers in the best conference. He has very good accuracy when he concentrates and sets himself.

But Aaron Murray also lacks several things that guys like Brees and Wilson have, namely ice in their veins and the ability to make something out of nothing.

Without the ACL, he wouldn't have been a 1st round pick. Dozens and dozens of scouting reports aren't wrong.
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Old 05-13-2014, 06:06 AM   #95
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I agree, SNR.

If you want a chance to be a starting quarterback in the nfl, it's not just a full time job..it's an 80 hour a week career.

You need to get to the facility the same time as your coaches do and when you leave you need to have film with you and watch film 1-3 hours per night on your own time...with teammates. When you aren't doing tat, you need to be spending a lot of time with your OL building chemistry...then sending a lot of time with your receivers on the fields to develop chemistry.

Being a successful NFL QB has a lot more to do with preparation than having a hot wife and being able to throw 70 yard passes.
If you become a successful NFL QB having a hot wife can usually follow pretty easily....although there are some exceptions.

Kind of like putting the cart before the horse to worry about a wedding before a career, especially one that could be as lucrative as an NFL QB.
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Old 05-13-2014, 06:21 AM   #96
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Brees doesn't have a strong arm.

He makes his money with accuracy and anticipation.
Brees arm is as under-rated as Montana's was.

Yeah, they're not in the top tier, but these guys could throw accurate passes 50 yards in the air. That's beyond strong enough.

Hell, Montana could throw a football 50 yards in the air when he was twelve.
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Old 05-13-2014, 06:48 AM   #97
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Some truly stupid shit has been posted recently about wanting to release Daniel and keep Bray and Murray.

Why?

So when Smith goes down, which is entirely possible given his track record, the Chiefs have absolutely zero ****ing chance of even being representable on Sundays? So we can try to replicate the Tyler mother****ing Palko era?

But, but, but Daniel[s] sucks!!2!! Yeah, and he's a mother****ing HOFer compared to the likes of UDFA Bray. That's reality. And so is Murray.
Yep UDFA buttchin and his 6 NFL passes before last year just out weights the upside of a young possible QB. Stupid assessment. Daniel is hot garbage plain and simple.
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:17 AM   #98
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I honestly thought Murray would go mid-to-late 3rd round. I think we got exceptional value, and the upside is huge while the risk is minimal.
at worst, we keep him for a few years and cut/trade him
at best, he becomes a starter at some point.

great pick IMO
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:27 AM   #99
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I honestly thought Murray would go mid-to-late 3rd round. I think we got exceptional value, and the upside is huge while the risk is minimal.
at worst, we keep him for a few years and cut/trade him
at best, he becomes a starter at some point.

great pick IMO
Totally agree.
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:34 AM   #100
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Nick Foles' measurable >>>>>>> Aaron Murray's measurables.
this place melted down with the thought of drafting Foles...

I would say less than 2% of the people here wanted him...

Now you have people blowing him...

This place never ceases to amazing you with stupidity.
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:40 AM   #101
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Only one problem. Foles is actually good.


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Old 05-13-2014, 07:42 AM   #102
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I keep hearing this back and forth about his noodle arm - but does anyone have video showing his inability to make certain throws? Because scouting reports I've seen have stated that he is able to make all the Pro Style throws, and Georgia ran a Pro Style set offense. There was even talk about how familiar with the terminology when the Chiefs interviewed him.
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serious question; what are the thoughts on Brady's arm strength. I wouldn't consider it a gun by any means.
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I keep hearing this back and forth about his noodle arm - but does anyone have video showing his inability to make certain throws? Because scouting reports I've seen have stated that he is able to make all the Pro Style throws, and Georgia ran a Pro Style set offense. There was even talk about how familiar with the terminology when the Chiefs interviewed him.
He doesn't have a noodle arm at all. I don't know where people are getting that.

Some of his boundary throws (like out routes) can take a long time to arrive, which makes him more susceptible to picks at the NFL level.

But his biggest problem is mechanical and can be corrected. If he doesn't get his base set right, he tends to put a lot of balls short and in the dirt and stuff like that.

The bottom line is that this is Chiefsplanet. There's a contingent that thinks he's going to be the #1 starter in 2015 and the next Trent Green and there's a contingent that thinks he's midget garbage.

The simple fact is that neither of those things are really true. He's a good value pick. He definitely has starter upside but his more probable fit is as a long-term backup QB in this league.
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It's also a complete logical fallacy to suggest that he can when really none of the evidence supports it.

Aaron Murray has a lot of things to like. He put up great numbers in the best conference. He has very good accuracy when he concentrates and sets himself.

But Aaron Murray also lacks several things that guys like Brees and Wilson have, namely ice in their veins and the ability to make something out of nothing.

Without the ACL, he wouldn't have been a 1st round pick. Dozens and dozens of scouting reports aren't wrong.
in the 2014 draft, you're right.

In the 2013 draft, he might have been the first QB chosen.

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I wonder if Reid would pull a Pete Carroll and give the start to Murray if he truly outplayed Smith in camp.

I mean, that's proooobably not going to happen, but I guess my point is: even if Murray has potential to be our Nick Foles, will he get the chance to prove it without having to resort to Tonya Harding-ing Smith's knee?
He will most likely start the year on pup
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