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Old 05-18-2014, 08:31 PM  
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Walter Rapes the Chiefs Draft

Don't agree with the Murray pick as I believe it was a complete piss away of a selection at a position that wasn't needing a pick in the first place. Murray will not even lead a team deep into the preseason, let alone the post season.

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Goals Entering the 2014 NFL Draft: The Chiefs are missing a second-round pick, so they want to move down more than anything. Their aim is to do so and then grab a guard like Xavier Su'a-Filo or Joel Bitonio. After that, they have to use some selections on the receiving corps and secondary. Getting some help in the front seven and on the defensive line is another goal.

2014 NFL Draft Accomplishments: I get the feeling that the Chiefs spent more time trying to trade their pick rather than deciding whom they were going take. They let the clock run down because they were desperate to move out of the No. 23 spot, but they couldn't do anything and panicked, taking Dee Ford off the board. That was a dreadful selection; not only was Ford deemed a reach by teams we've spoken to, but he didn't even fill a need. There are members of Kansas City's organization who don't even like the pick. It was that bad.

The Chiefs redeemed themselves a bit with Phillip Gaines in the third round. Gaines is a tall, athletic, talented cornerback, who could start once Brandon Flowers is dealt. Taking Aaron Murray in the fifth frame was also a solid move, but once again, Kansas City had to redeem itself because of a reach - which was De'Anthony Thomas in the previous round.

Kansas City unquestionably came away with one of the worst classes this year. It made multiple reaches and failed to address most of its glaring needs. That's not how teams are supposed to draft.

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23. Dee Ford, DE/OLB, Auburn: D Grade
Ugh. The Chiefs have not been drafting well in this new regime. Their class last year was Eric Fisher (who struggled), Travis Kelce, Knile Davis and Nico Johnson. They dealt this year's second for mediocre Alex Smith. And now they're taking a second-round prospect who fills a minimal need. Things are not looking very bright in Kansas City.

There's no doubt that Ford is a reach. The Chiefs could have moved down and still picked him. Ford also won't start anytime soon with Tamba Hali and Justin Houston in front of him. This is the worst pick of the first round thus far, but at least it's not on a Millen level.

87. Phillip Gaines, CB, Rice: A- Grade
There's talk that the Chiefs could trade Brandon Flowers, so it makes sense that they spent a mid-round selection on a cornerback. Phillip Gaines didn't get any national attention because he played at Rice, but he was terrific, albeit against inferior competition. He's also very athletic, so it wouldn't surprise me if he emerged as a solid starter down the road.

124. De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon: C+ Grade
Wow. This is a couple of rounds earlier than De'Anthony Thomas was expected to go, but the Oregon play-maker should be a good weapon for Alex Smith. Kansas City's quarterback can't throw deep, so he'll need another target to dump the ball off to. Thomas also serves as a needed backup for Jamaal Charles, a need created by Knile Davis' injury.

163. Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia: A Grade
Nice. Alex Smith cannot lead the Chiefs deep into the playoffs, but perhaps Aaron Murray will be able to. Murray would have gone much earlier had he not torn his ACL, so Kansas City is getting a steal and perhaps its future starting quarterback. This is an awesome pick in the fifth round.

193. Zach Fulton, G, Tennessee: B Grade
It's a shock that the Chiefs waited this long for a guard, as I was told that the position was under consideration in the first round. Zach Fulton fits the range though, so no complaints.

200. Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, OT/G, McGill: A- Grade
There was some buzz about Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, and some even thought he could go as high as the fourth round. The Canadian could eventually compete for the right tackle job.
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Old 05-22-2014, 04:18 PM   #61
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If they win a Super Bowl who gives a shit what they get paid.
I'm sorry but I like long term sustainable success. Winning one Super Bowl and being crappy for the next 7 - 8 years doesn't really do it for me. For some people that works for them. But I just don't like sucking for so long. To each his own. Having Alex for 14 mil would give us at least a couple of extra good players that other teams may not be able to afford. I still believe this is a team sport. And no one player (even the QB) should be at the expense of everyone else on the team. To me....there are only four QBs in the entire league that deserve huge paydays.... P.Manning, T. Brady, A. Rogers, and D. Breeze. And that is because they have been so consistanly good for so long. Too many teams have been caught giving their QB's these huge contracts only to have down years once they've been paid. That can't be said for the performance of the ones I've just mentioned. Consistency over a span of time should earn a huge payday... Not potential....thats for draft picks. And that's why they draft wages were changed to a wait and see approach before the payout.
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Old 05-22-2014, 05:24 PM   #62
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:03 PM   #63
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He's become laughable.

He gives the Gaines pick an A-, but then follows it up with "sources tell me that was a reach."

Way to put your balls on the line, Walt. So you loved the pick, but some dickhead freelancer that you talk to says it was a reach so that's gospel?

**** off.
I also laughed at the "longterm complement to Brandon Flowers" line.

God, if this loser just did 10 ****ing minutes of research on the teams he drafts for. That's all it would take. Ten minutes. Ten minutes per team would get him to stop saying uninformed bullshit like this.
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Old 05-23-2014, 07:08 AM   #65
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I find it funny that guys who bang the "everything predraft is smokescreen" drum ever year, have no problem believing "reports" that come out damn near every year - the player we took was coveted by someone else.

Everything you hear before the draft? Bullshit.

Everything you hear after the draft? Gospel.
Because smoke screens have a strategic purpose. To throw people off. After the draft, why would a team lie about who they wanted?

It's not gospel. But there's enough smoke here to say that teams wanted dee Ford around where we picked. I doubt he would have been available if we traded down too far.
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I'm sorry but I like long term sustainable success. Winning one Super Bowl and being crappy for the next 7 - 8 years doesn't really do it for me. For some people that works for them. But I just don't like sucking for so long. To each his own. Having Alex for 14 mil would give us at least a couple of extra good players that other teams may not be able to afford. I still believe this is a team sport. And no one player (even the QB) should be at the expense of everyone else on the team. To me....there are only four QBs in the entire league that deserve huge paydays.... P.Manning, T. Brady, A. Rogers, and D. Breeze. And that is because they have been so consistanly good for so long. Too many teams have been caught giving their QB's these huge contracts only to have down years once they've been paid. That can't be said for the performance of the ones I've just mentioned. Consistency over a span of time should earn a huge payday... Not potential....thats for draft picks. And that's why they draft wages were changed to a wait and see approach before the payout.
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:57 AM   #67
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Because smoke screens have a strategic purpose. To throw people off. After the draft, why would a team lie about who they wanted?

It's not gospel. But there's enough smoke here to say that teams wanted dee Ford around where we picked. I doubt he would have been available if we traded down too far.
Teams during the draft tend to talk a lot. Potentially anyone who heard that the falcons or eagles wanted Ford could be told this as a smokescreen for another player. However the power of deduction makes me believe that if teams were talking about him at that spot, then they thought he was worthy of being drafted there.
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I do know that the Eagles made a super shitty selection in Marcus Smith. At least Bruce Irvin had all kinds of untapped potential.
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I don't understand the cred of Walter Football... I mean, there really are people who believe this guy to be a football guru... Whenever I talk football with some slapdicks around my area, they always reference Walter Football. I understand the appeal of his site...mock drafts are fun. My God though, it always irritates the shit out of me when I see a blogger or an author of a site in which the idea for the site is a good one, but the person who writes/maintains it is a total piss for brains.

There is this humor blogger who has an awesome idea for a site... I think the url was http://stuffyoushouldhate.com. Awesome idea for a blog/site, IMO... however, the guy who came up with this awesome idea is one of the most unfunny, stupid ****ing assholes I've ever heard of. Such a douchebag. And a hipster.... UGH!!!! Anyways, that shit always bothers me...good ideas being raped by the Uncle Bad Touch's who operate them.

With that said, Walter reminds me of the type of dude who hangs out in his basement, watches a few CBSSports clips on the draft, reads a couple of other mock drafts and skims through a couple of message boards, writes on his website, jerks off, eats a lot of canned chili and sleeps.

This dude doesn't know shit.
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And sometimes I wonder if the dude actually becomes butthurt when teams draft someone or a position that is completely different than what he mocked, making him feel stupid...which would prompt the stupid draft reviews that he posts, such as this one on the Chiefs.
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For 2015, this is how Walter has mocked us:

Kansas City Chiefs: Cameron Erving, OT, Florida State

The Chiefs recently spent the No. 1 overall pick on a left tackle, but Andy Reid loves to upgrade the trenches, so he may search for an upgrade on the other side of the front.
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For 2015, this is how Walter has mocked us:

Kansas City Chiefs: Cameron Erving, OT, Florida State

The Chiefs recently spent the No. 1 overall pick on a left tackle, but Andy Reid loves to upgrade the trenches, so he may search for an upgrade on the other side of the front.
Does he have a 2016 mock out yet?

I fully expect this douchebag to only ever mock us offensive linemen from now on as long as Andy Reid is the head coach.

I mean, Reid isn't even calling the shots on the draft. Dorsey is. Yet this loser keeps saying, "If you think the Chiefs are going overboard with offensive linemen, just remember who is calling the shots."

Again, he's lazy and hates the Chiefs and other worthless midwest teams he doesn't care about. Unless the team need is obvious, and the pick makes total sense, the dude isn't going to budge beyond a 20-second scan of the roster and what he knows about the GM/HC/team draft history. Except here he doesn't even acknowledge that there is a GM in place.

The guy's going to keep being a ****ing retard for as long as he runs his site, and he'll use excuses like, "Andy Reid" to justify his shitty opinions.
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Old 05-27-2014, 04:07 PM   #73
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Does he have a 2016 mock out yet?

I fully expect this douchebag to only ever mock us offensive linemen from now on as long as Andy Reid is the head coach.
Or until we have another "Golden Age" O-Linemen that are laden with HOF and pro-bowl caliber players.
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This is pure biased horse shit, no matter how you look at it.
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