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Legal marijuana created thousands of jobs in Colorado

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Marijuana dispensaries characterize it as a bit of a gold rush: the sudden swarm of thousands of people from in and out of Colorado trying to get into the state's new recreational marijuana industry.

"Everybody's expanding right now," Elan Nelson, business consultant for Medicine Man, one of the largest marijuana shops in Denver. "Really, we're just trying to keep up with demand."

Since retail sales of recreational marijuana began in January, the state has seen a small boom in jobs. The Marijuana Industry Group (MIG) estimates there are currently about 10,000 people directly involved with marijuana, with 1,000 to 2,000 joining in the past few months and more expected as high demand for recreational marijuana continues. MIG says it's hard to separate how many of those 10,000 jobs are tied to recreational marijuana and which are exclusively on the medical side, but at least a few thousand jobs came during and after the preparation and start of recreational sales.

In total, the industry makes up only about 0.4 percent of all employment in a state with more than 2.6 million jobs. But these are thousands of people who could otherwise find themselves on the unemployment line. And for Colorado, they're revenue-generating jobs that might not have existed at all if the state didn't allow recreational or medical pot.

The estimate also doesn't include other groups indirectly involved in the industry, including construction workers, accountants, plumbers, electricians, and attorneys. And it leaves out restaurants and other businesses who might benefit from out-of-state visitors going into Colorado to try out legal marijuana.

The marijuana industry doesn't expect its growth to slow any time soon. And there's good reason for that: at least during the first three months of retail sales, marijuana revenue grew from $14 million a month to $19 million a month.

t the same time, Colorado's economy is showing other positive signs of growth — both a good sign for marijuana businesses and an indication that pot isn't scaring away others, despite previous warnings from business leaders. The state's estimated unemployment rate in April was 6 percent, down from 6.2 percent in March and 6.9 percent the year before.

"I don't think we're all of that, but I think we're playing a role," says Mike Elliott, executive director of the MIG.


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Old 05-23-2014, 07:03 AM   #91
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:20 AM   #92
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Hemp can be used to make paper and grows 15 times faster than trees thus making it a valuable renewable resource.

Can anyone give one VALID reason why it should not be grown? Instead we import it from Canada...
And here we get the same HEMP WILL SAVE AMERICA! bullshit. Legalizing hemp production in the US will have little effect on anything. For the most part it's a shitty crop than no one else in the world (where it is LEGAL) wants to grow in any large amounts.

That said, there is no reason it should be illegal. Just because something is stupid doesn't mean it should be illegal.

For those of you who think hemp is some miracle crop... read this...
http://modernfarmer.com/2013/10/lega...p-wont-matter/
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:24 AM   #93
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Hemp can be used to make paper and grows 15 times faster than trees thus making it a valuable renewable resource.

Can anyone give one VALID reason why it should not be grown? Instead we import it from Canada...
Don't worry about the trees. There's plenty and paper companies are not going to allow their inventory to be depleted. So they have successfully managed what are called "working forests" where they constantly renew growth for the future. We have more trees now than we had at back in the early 19th century, when people used wood for home fuel in their fireplaces. With the digital age even less paper is or will be used.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:26 AM   #94
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Drafts of the Constitution are not the same thing. "The" Constitution was not written on hemp. Which was your claim.
It was written on hemp. A copy was transcribed onto parchment.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:27 AM   #95
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The left needs to just stick to the "freedom" aspect of this rather than the jobs + tax dollar nonsense.
Yup. This is why they're not classical liberals or libertarians. They're statist to their inner cores.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:35 AM   #96
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It was written on hemp. A copy was transcribed onto parchment.


The actual Constitution is not a "Copy", dummy. There's no way to wordsmith your way out of it. You were completely wrong, but you refuse to own it. Same shit, different day.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:36 AM   #97
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Fish, a "draft" is a writing and part of the writing process--regardless if a final version is put into print or nice calligraphy on parchment. JHC, it was a trivia point for fun. Only a curmudgeon would take it up for an argument. It's splitting hairs.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:40 AM   #98
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It's an involved process to make parchment, which was used for finalized important documents:

From the National Archives:
Parchment has traditionally been used instead of paper for important documents such as religious texts, public laws, indentures, and land records as it has always been considered a strong and stable material. The five pages of the U.S. Constitution as well as the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and the Articles of Confederation are written on parchment...

The terms refer to the finish of the paper and should not be relied upon as an indicator of its long term stability.

http://www.archives.gov/preservation...er-vellum.html
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:48 AM   #99
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So now argue this Fish: Madison wrote the Constitution.* Hence is called Father of the Constitution. But you'd argue that Jacob Shallus wrote it because it was his penmanship on the original copy of the Constitution.
Jacob Shallus (or Shalus; 1750–April 18, 1796[1]) was the engrosser or penman of the original copy of the United States Constitution. The handwritten document that Shallus engrossed is on display at the National Archives Building in Washington.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Shallus
* Yet, even that was simply the final compromise of a bunch of men debating ideas for the new govt.
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More on Constution's transcriber and calligrapher:
Shallus' name appears nowhere on the document itself, but an investigation into the identity of the Penman in 1937 for the 150th anniversary of the Constitution revealed the identity of the transcriber. Shallus was paid $30 for his engrossing work, a sum recorded as for "clerks employed to transcribe & engross."[4] The effort consisted of copying the Constitution of four sheets of vellum parchment, made from treated animal skin and measuring approximately 28 inches (71 cm) by 23 inches (58 cm), probably with a goose quill. Shallus engrossed the entire document except for the list of states at the end of the document, which are in Alexander Hamilton's handwriting.

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Old 05-23-2014, 09:53 AM   #101
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So now argue this Fish:
No, let's not. JHC, it was a trivia point for fun. Only a curmudgeon would take it up for an argument.
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No, let's not. THC, it was a trivia point for fun. Only a curmudgeon would take it up for an argument.
Ohhhhhhhhh, so you don't want to tangle now do ya?

Harumph! I was trying to clarify my point further was all.


Meanwhile, you were posting, I was looking up the word "engrosser" that was in the wiki document. A quick web definition will suffice:

One who copies a piece of writing in large, attractive characters

I just happen to have taken calligraphy and teach typography and the history of writing forms.

I also FYP to fit the topic.
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Don't worry about the trees. There's plenty and paper companies are not going to allow their inventory to be depleted. So they have successfully managed what are called "working forests" where they constantly renew growth for the future. We have more trees now than we had at back in the early 19th century, when people used wood for home fuel in their fireplaces. With the digital age even less paper is or will be used.
I remember reading an article a couple of years back about how the paper industry has been in a major decline due to several factors, which include recycling, companies going paperless, e-readers....

I think that the trees will be fine.
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I remember reading an article a couple of years back about how the paper industry has been in a major decline due to several factors, which include recycling, companies going paperless, e-readers....

I think that the trees will be fine.
'Cept for D.C. because they use way, way more than the national average for toilet paper there.
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