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Old 05-21-2014, 06:54 PM  
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Obama and the VA

Ive been pretty busy running my business but this thing has even gotten coverage on KC radio news. Whats the story and why is Obama saying he is mad?
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Old 05-21-2014, 09:23 PM   #16
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Is there still anyone out there stupid enough that thinks a single payer health care system is a good idea?
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Old 05-21-2014, 09:24 PM   #17
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Is there still anyone out there stupid enough that thinks a single payer health care system is a good idea?
yep...
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Old 05-21-2014, 09:28 PM   #18
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yep...
Well yes, I suppose you'd think that if you realize you're going to die someday anyway.
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Old 05-21-2014, 09:55 PM   #19
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Nothing to see here.

Just another phony scandal.
What does it matter now?
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Old 05-21-2014, 09:58 PM   #20
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Well yes, I suppose you'd think that if you realize you're going to die someday anyway.
yipee! we're all gonna die!! /country joe and the fish
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Old 05-21-2014, 09:59 PM   #21
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more seriously, the va system is not a single payer system, it is much more like socialized medicine for vets (if they can live long enough to get treatment)...
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Old 05-22-2014, 07:16 AM   #22
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:00 AM   #23
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Out of all the "scandals" this one is by far the most important. The VA has been ****ed up for a long time and having 2 wars certainly didn't help but for certain VA hospitals to have secret lists and have vets die who are in a waiting list is inexcusable and tragic.

I know McCain recently suggested a new plan and I would think that they could make the VA more like Medicare, have them approve the applicants, issue them a card, and let the vets go to where they want to go and have the government pick up the tab. Some vets have to drive 3-4 hours to a VA hospital and that is absolutely stupid.
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Old 05-22-2014, 08:07 AM   #24
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The VA is government run health care. Shouldn't we be celebrating how awesome it is?
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Old 05-22-2014, 07:00 PM   #25
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I was busy as hell today. Great day taking care of customers. But no time to check on this stuff. Last I heard last night before I went to bed was Obama was gonna meet with his VA guy and let him know he was mad.

Did they meet? Did the VA guy get an ass chewing? Did Obama get in his face? What?
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Old 05-22-2014, 07:05 PM   #26
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How could he do all that ^^^ and make his Tee time.
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Old 05-22-2014, 07:41 PM   #27
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How the **** can Shinseki still have a job? Oh wait, if you're employed by the biggest POS to ever hold the presidency failure is rewarded.

The only other answer is health care administered by the government has proven to be a complete failure. Take your pick.
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Another one he found out about in the paper.
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Old 05-22-2014, 07:45 PM   #29
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more seriously, the va system is not a single payer system, it is much more like socialized medicine for vets (if they can live long enough to get treatment)...
The VA is a single payer system.
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Old 05-22-2014, 07:48 PM   #30
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I was busy as hell today. Great day taking care of customers. But no time to check on this stuff. Last I heard last night before I went to bed was Obama was gonna meet with his VA guy and let him know he was mad.

Did they meet? Did the VA guy get an ass chewing? Did Obama get in his face? What?
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