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Old 05-22-2014, 11:20 AM  
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Let's make sure more veterans have insurance.

By expanding Medicaid as the ACA intended in the 20-some states that have yet to do so.

Figured this story would be apropos considering the awful news about the VA recently.

http://www.vox.com/2014/5/21/5738512...-poor-veterans

States that refuse Medicaid are leaving over 250,000 poor veterans uninsured
Updated by Adrianna McIntyre
on May 21, 2014, 2:00 p.m. ET

The failure of some states to expand Medicaid is leaving a quarter-million veterans without health insurance.

Many assume that all of the nation's veterans are entitled to health care through the Veteran's Administration, but that's not the case; a veteran must have served for two continuous years or the full period for which they were called to active duty in order to be eligible. There are some exceptions ó like for individuals who were discharged for a disability sustained in the line of duty ó but about 1.3 million veterans remain uninsured nationwide.

According to a report by Pew using analysis from the Urban Institute, approximately 258,600 of those veterans are living below the poverty line in states refusing to expand Medicaid. Without veteran's benefits ó and with incomes too low to qualify for subsidies to use on the state exchanges ó these veterans are left without affordable coverage options.

Twenty states are staunchly refusing to expand the program, and a few are still debating the issue.



Opposition to Medicaid expansion could affect veterans who are eligible for benefits, too. The number of veterans who can be enrolled in the health benefits in any given year is limited by funds appropriated by Congress. To cope with this constraint, the VA has designated "priority groups" to determine who gets priority in enrollment. Medicaid eligibility can bump up a veteran's enrollment priority.

Moreover, veterans stand to benefit from dual eligibility with the VA and Medicaid. Just because an individual has veteran's benefits does not mean that a VA hospital is readily accessible. While there is a process for for seeking health services at outside hospitals, the red tape involved could discourage vets from seeking care.

The states refusing Medicaid expansion are failing their poorest and most vulnerable uninsured veterans. There's a way to fix that.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:21 AM   #2
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Also from that site, a short explanation of how they fall through the cracks, for those among us who don't otherwise know:

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What happens to poor people in non-Medicaid expansion states?

People who earn less than the poverty line cannot qualify for subsidized private insurance — the legislators who wrote Obamacare anticipated that this population would gain Medicaid coverage and so did not include them in the subsidies. That’s left some of the poorest Americans in a coverage gap, where they are too poor to earn subsidies to help purchase insurance.

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Old 05-22-2014, 12:42 PM   #3
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ObamaCare really not into Veterans….
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:19 PM   #4
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:23 PM   #5
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:39 PM   #6
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What a complete bullshit article.. not surprising Direckshun posted it.

Anyone who deserved to be called a veteran is eligible for VA Benefits. Period. You don't get to call yourself a veteran if you signed up and then were dishonorably discharged or otherwise failed to uphold your obligations.

Direckshun's obvious attempt to manipulate people is obvious.
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:44 PM   #7
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What a complete bullshit article.. not surprising Direckshun posted it.

Anyone who deserved to be called a veteran is eligible for VA Benefits. Period. You don't get to call yourself a veteran if you signed up and then were dishonorably discharged or otherwise failed to uphold your obligations.

Direckshun's obvious attempt to manipulate people is obvious.
Yeah, it would be nice for reck to be specific about what veterans are eligible.

Looks like Dishonorable Discharge or AWOL are the only avenues.
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:47 PM   #8
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Many assume that all of the nation's veterans are entitled to health care through the Veteran's Administration, but that's not the case; a veteran must have served for two continuous years or the full period for which they were called to active duty in order to be eligible.
What are the reasons for why they wouldn't be in the service for two years or their full period of active duty? (besides AWOL or dishonorable discharge)
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:59 PM   #10
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Yeah, it would be nice for reck to be specific about what veterans are eligible.

Looks like Dishonorable Discharge or AWOL are the only avenues.
Or wash outs. Apparently Direckshun feels that people who simply sign up but don't do anything deserve benefits.

Why is this not surprising?
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Old 05-22-2014, 02:52 PM   #11
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What are the reasons for why they wouldn't be in the service for two years or their full period of active duty? (besides AWOL or dishonorable discharge)
Well when I served there was a Medical Discharge, which was typically the result of an injury sustained while training, and a Less than Honorable Discharge, which would encompass AWOL among other infractions. I believe a Medical Discharge retains VA benefits but itís up to Veterans Affairs as to whether a Less than Honorable Discharge retains VA benefits.
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Old 05-22-2014, 04:18 PM   #12
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Well when I served there was a Medical Discharge, which was typically the result of an injury sustained while training, and a Less than Honorable Discharge, which would encompass AWOL among other infractions. I believe a Medical Discharge retains VA benefits but it’s up to Veterans Affairs as to whether a Less than Honorable Discharge retains VA benefits.
this discussion doesn't pertain to people like us who served in the spanish-american war, so your experience is irrelevant...
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Well when I served there was a Medical Discharge, which was typically the result of an injury sustained while training, and a Less than Honorable Discharge, which would encompass AWOL among other infractions. I believe a Medical Discharge retains VA benefits but itís up to Veterans Affairs as to whether a Less than Honorable Discharge retains VA benefits.
Yeah it mentions medical in the article as still being covered. Less than honorable is probably the only thing then (beyond what's already mentioned).
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Old 05-22-2014, 05:26 PM   #14
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this discussion doesn't pertain to people like us who served in the spanish-american war, so your experience is irrelevant...
Speak for yourself, grandpa. I served as recently as ought dickety, fighting through the bad bush when I was in the Poontang Delta.
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This actually happened on the Senate floor this afternoon. Senator Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) asked for consent to take up and pass the Veterans Affairs Management Accountability Act, a bill that would make it easier/possible for the scandal-plagued department to fire employees based on poor performance. The House overwhelmingly passed the legislation on Wednesday, with a bipartisan vote of 390 to 33. (Only Democrats objected.)

Surely the Senate would follow suit, right? Not exactly. Senator Bernie Sanders, a union-backed socialist from Vermont, objected on behalf of Senate Democrats to Rubio’s request. Instead of taking any action now, Sanders said he is going to hold a hearing—several weeks from now.

Sanders, who chairs the Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs, has been one of the most outspoken defenders of the VA against allegations of misconduct. When asked about reports of multiple deaths related to long wait times at the VA healthcare system, Sanders told CNN: “People die every day.”
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