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Old 05-22-2014, 05:54 PM  
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The Fermi Paradox - Why we haven't been contacted by aliens

Interesting read. What's your opinion?


http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html
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Old 05-24-2014, 02:48 AM   #136
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:02 AM   #137
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Fun article.
The filter and distance from intelligent life On planet A to planet B makes it near impossible to ever find out.
25 years ago I had a conversations with the old man about this topic.
He flatly stated that he did not believe intelegent life existed anywhere else in the universe. Something about probabilities blah blah blah.
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:04 AM   #138
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The Fermi Paradox is horseshit, it was dispelled a long time ago...
Welp... lock the thread guys, it's been dispelled.

Wait... dispelled?
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:06 AM   #139
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Well, by definition, God would be an alien...
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:06 AM   #140
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The ability to travel at the speed of light is useless without the ability to steer and stop the vessel. There are a couple of problems here.

I once dropped a tie rod at 70mph and lived. I would hate to drop a tie rod going any faster than that.

I don't think you have a clear path out there in space. There's lotsa space boulders floatin' around. Not to mention all the space junk from the stuff they blowed up in them Star Wars movies.

What kind of reaction time would it take to drive at the speed of light? You'd have to be Madam Cleo or somethin'.

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Old 05-24-2014, 07:20 AM   #141
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The ability to travel at the speed of light is useless without the ability to steer and stop the vessel. There are a couple of problems here.

I once dropped a tie rod at 70mph and lived. I would hate to drop a tie rod going any faster than that.

I don't think you have a clear path out there in space. There's lotsa space boulders floatin' around. Not to mention all the space junk from the stuff they blowed up in them Star Wars movies.

What kind of reaction time would it take to drive at the speed of light? You'd have to be Madam Cleo or somethin'.

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Well, way over 99% of the universe is actually empty space. That's why they call it space. In many spots, you could travel for millions of light years in any direction and not even see anything to run into. The emptiness between galaxies is mind bottling.

But you're right that we'd have a problem with speed and collisions. You really wouldn't be able to see and react to anything during travel that fast. I'd guess that we'd have to create a 3D map of the travel area and completely program flights ahead of time.
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:22 AM   #142
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I believe we're past the filter. Unfortunately we will create our own . I believe we will become so dependent on technology and civilization that eventually a disaster will occur that leaves only the rugged, well built, well prepared, good looking humans, you know stallions like me. Unfortunately all these dooms day prepped survivalists are not even up to nasa standards, so your set back in technology and education every few thousand years. That leads to a slightly different path of evolution for the entire planet. Which never allows you to make it to level II. What I'm saying is the human race will filter itself through an uncontrollable disaster or massive war a few times until 1000 generations down your begging your Sasquatch looking daughter to breed with a man bear pig neighbor so your grand baby can be the manbearsquatchpig that finally takes the chiefs to an astro bowl.
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:34 AM   #143
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I believe we're past the filter. Unfortunately we will create our own . I believe we will become so dependent on technology and civilization that eventually a disaster will occur that leaves only the rugged, well built, well prepared, good looking humans, you know stallions like me. Unfortunately all these dooms day prepped survivalists are not even up to nasa standards, so your set back in technology and education every few thousand years. That leads to a slightly different path of evolution for the entire planet. Which never allows you to make it to level II. What I'm saying is the human race will filter itself through an uncontrollable disaster or massive war a few times until 1000 generations down your begging your Sasquatch looking daughter to breed with a man bear pig neighbor so your grand baby can be the manbearsquatchpig that finally takes the chiefs to an astro bowl.
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:34 AM   #144
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Interesting read. What's your opinion?


http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html
Excellent article! I'm glad you posted it.
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:39 AM   #145
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:53 AM   #146
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A bit like saying the pony express or telegrams could never allow us to have instant-contact with people in China. Life the last few centuries has changed at an unbelievable if not unsustainable rates.

I'm not sure why they need to find planets Humans could have survived on. Life finds a way under bizarre circumstances. Even Humans as they exist are only around due to ancestors surviving hard to imagine catastrophes.
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Old 05-24-2014, 08:08 AM   #147
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We're never gonna make level II until there's a minimum intelligence standard for breeding. I propose a shot to make the body sterile at 13. At 18 your tested if your not the future of idiocracy you are eligible to breed. If not you get a neck tat and another shot. Now here's the beauty. You got all these increasingly intelligent people running around stressing over research and what have you. They walk out find em a broad with a neck tat, **** her stupid and go back to work without fear of consequence. It's gonna take it's toll on the used mobile home business and foot print gas pedal installers but it's a faster track to level 2.
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Old 05-24-2014, 08:08 AM   #148
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A point made by Cosmos in a recent episode is that we're not only dealing with a challenge of space, but also of time. In other words, the math says that there should be a ton of other planets with life on them, but what's to say that life hasn't already come and gone on most of them? If it turns out that there just isn't a way to go faster than the speed of light, it's entirely plausible that we just won't have anyone else close enough and at the right point in time to find anything out there.
The country road analogy- essentially the chances of coming to a 4 way stop / intersection at the same time when each car has the entire earth to roam and there's only 1 other car you could intersect with. To add a 2nd car (the 2nd closest planet with life) you have to increase the size of the earth / drivable terrain exponentially each time you want to add another "car" you might be able to intersect with at some point given the endless possible # of routes you could take.
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If you want some whack shit, consider this: all naturally occurring amino acids on Earth are left-handed, even though there is no real functional advantage for an AA to be right or left-handed. It's just an evolutionary quirk. Meteorites with trace amino acids have been found to have a 50-50 split of right and left handed AA's.
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Welp... lock the thread guys, it's been dispelled.

Wait... dispelled?
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