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The Fermi Paradox - Why we haven't been contacted by aliens

Interesting read. What's your opinion?


http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html
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Old 05-23-2014, 01:48 PM   #121
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It's just too damn far. One of the things that fascinates me about the universe is how long it would take to get to another galaxy. The nearest spiral galaxy is what...2.5 million light years away? Whenever I think about how far light could travel in 2.5 million years it blows my mind. If there are "aliens" that have been here or are here, I have to think it's some kind of interdimensional visitor and not some intergalactic visitor.
Thats another wild, probably sci-fi, possibility. If a 4th or 5th dimension exists, whatever the hell that might mean, and if we were capable of existing in those dimensions, and if distance was meaningless in those dimensions.
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Old 05-23-2014, 02:21 PM   #122
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I think there's a point coming in our future (I don't know when...) where we'll significantly alter and/or find ways around the laws of physics as we currently understand them. I think there's a certain (understandable) arrogance about how we see current understanding as the end of knowledge rather than a still fairly early point on a long road.

I think if there were/are extraterrestrials here (and I think it's a possibility, albeit a remote one), they're probably here for reasons we can't understand doing things we can't understand in ways that we can't understand. Sort of like Clarke's law about sufficiently advanced technology looking like magic.
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Old 05-23-2014, 02:24 PM   #123
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I think there's a point coming in our future (I don't know when...) where we'll significantly alter and/or find ways around the laws of physics as we currently understand them. I think there's a certain (understandable) arrogance about how we see current understanding as the end of knowledge rather than a still fairly early point on a long road.

I think if there were/are extraterrestrials here (and I think it's a possibility, albeit a remote one), they're probably here for reasons we can't understand doing things we can't understand in ways that we can't understand. Sort of like Clarke's law about sufficiently advanced technology looking like magic.
If aliens are here, we're probably only alive because they like our beer or something. Or because they like having sex with our hookers.
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Old 05-23-2014, 02:28 PM   #124
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If aliens are here, we're probably only alive because they like our beer or something. Or because they like having sex with our hookers.
I can't possibly argue this.
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Old 05-23-2014, 02:32 PM   #125
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If aliens are here, we're probably only alive because they like our beer or something. Or because they like having sex with our hookers.
You can go really crazy and think about wacky possibilities like extraterrestrials here as energy forms who've evolved beyond physical forms. Or along your lines, maybe an extraterrestrial bioorganism indistiguishable (to us) from yeast that's actually a hive organism infesting all our beer with some kind of altered CO2 for some nefarious reason like making it all taste like natural light.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:45 PM   #126
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We live in a really fascinating time. Pre filter I would say.

The way the numbers crunch, more and more, people are beginning to not simply believe that other life/civilizations could exist, but given the scale of the universe they do and must exist.

Which puts things in a strange place.

It's a place where without evidence people are coming closer and closer to 100% assurance that other civilizations exist while at the same time coming to almost the exact opposite conclusion about a God/creator being.

As folks begin to view time as almost limitless, they begin to take very unlikely events and turn them into pretty likely events.

Unlikely + huge amounts of hard to comprehend time= Likely


I thought the article was great. Lots to process.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:54 PM   #127
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This is a myth. Over the course of a day you eventually use every part of your brain. There's no reason to think we have a savant lurking inside each of us.
Well, there's definitely some mystery to that because there have been many cases where brain damage has unlocked ubergenius abilities in otherwise ordinary folks.
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Old 05-23-2014, 09:59 PM   #128
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I think there's a certain (understandable) arrogance about how we see current understanding as the end of knowledge rather than a still fairly early point on a long road.
This, of course, is a regular occurrence at every point of progress.
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Old 05-23-2014, 10:37 PM   #129
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Sorry, I meant light.

And of course it seems "pretty much impossible" today. We thought black holes were a myth 50 years ago. Convinced the world was flat 400 years ago. etc. etc.
Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth a couple of hundred years BC. Columbus had this knowledge when he sailed, although he thought the numbers were off.
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Old 05-23-2014, 10:39 PM   #130
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:25 PM   #131
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The Fermi Paradox is horseshit, it was dispelled a long time ago... in reality, you're/we're all just a bunch of ants staring up at the sun.

"Well scientist so and so says, in fact multiple bigshot Mr. So and So's say, its an absurdity to think we already have visitors... nope, its all just too complicated for us and anything else in the universe to understand or overcome.

Now back to American Idol...

This thread proves how arrogant most people are, the info from official sources is right there in your ****ing faces if you'd just look and still you hold out.
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:26 PM   #132
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The **** are you blabbering on about, Scott?
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:30 PM   #133
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The **** are you blabbering on about, Scott?
The **** you questioning me about, slim?

I'm telling you and all of these other mfers that the truth is hidden right there in front your ****ing faces... its not crazy old Free over here, listen to astronauts, defense ministers, former heads of Project Bluebook etc.

I give a **** if you or any of the other brilliant minds here agree or not, I'm not the one ignoring blatant evidence in the public domain, slim.
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Old 05-23-2014, 11:39 PM   #134
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Ah, Scott. I'm just ****ing with you, my man.

It's so easy to get a rise out of you!
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Old 05-24-2014, 12:05 AM   #135
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It's an interesting topic. The reality is that civilizations just don't last very long and on top of that, intergalactic travel is pretty damn impossible. Sure, there are inhabitable planets billions of years older than earth, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are billions of years of technology ahead of us. Dinosaurs ruled the planet for over 100 million years and mankind is only a few thousand. We're only one stray asteroid from being completely set back to the stone age.
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