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Old 05-22-2014, 09:33 PM  
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What's better since the Democrats took power in 2008?

I'll start with the stock market. My investments in big corporations are doing well.

Name your own. Go.
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:45 PM   #76
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I don't think I need to debate Gloucester Chief on this one. I can see his side of each one of those issues even if I have different beliefs. Frankly, I don't mind being refuted; comparing beliefs with intelligent people with whom you disagree is healthy, and one of the biggest reasons why I come here.

What's puzzling to me is that people think I'm a blind follower of the DNC. Eh, oh well.
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:55 PM   #77
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What's puzzling to me is that people think I'm a blind follower of the DNC. Eh, oh well.
You're not. Pay no attention to the poster who made that claim. Or substitute "people" in your post for one poster.
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Old 05-26-2014, 03:02 PM   #78
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What's puzzling to me is that people think I'm a blind follower of the DNC. Eh, oh well.
Most people accuse me of being a conservative or a Republican because conservatives and Republicans mouth the beliefs that I actually believe in.

There are only a handful of Senators and Representatives I would vote for of either party.
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Old 05-26-2014, 04:28 PM   #79
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I don't think I need to debate Gloucester Chief on this one. I can see his side of each one of those issues even if I have different beliefs. Frankly, I don't mind being refuted; comparing beliefs with intelligent people with whom you disagree is healthy, and one of the biggest reasons why I come here.

What's puzzling to me is that people think I'm a blind follower of the DNC. Eh, oh well.
Uh...the fact you defend failure and continue to champion the ideology of said failure~
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Old 05-26-2014, 04:29 PM   #80
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Well, it seems to me that those who are on the left like lower economic activity in exchange for govt care. That explains a lot.
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Old 05-26-2014, 07:07 PM   #81
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Pretty much everything. Considering the condition of the economy in freefall as he entered office, the improvements are even more obvious. With that plus killing Osama, you'd be putting him on Mt. Rushmore if he was an R.
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Old 05-26-2014, 07:14 PM   #82
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Old 05-26-2014, 07:42 PM   #83
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I give Obama credit for ending the wars, for doing his part for the recovery from 2008-2009, and for the ACA. Personally, he's set a good role model for education and hard work. I am also glad to see the advancements we're making on social programs, such as gay marriage rights. I also think we're moving toward slowing down the skyrocketing education costs, which is good.

However, I am not pleased with other aspects. I don't think he's a terribly strong leader, so he's prone to being pushed around. I did not like the Libya thing. I am concerned that the country is being militarized. Divisions are growing wider, both politically and economically. He hasn't even begun the conversation about gun control and mental health, which will just get worse.

I think he'll go down in history as a mid-range president - an Lyndon Johnson, a William McKinley, or a John Quincy Adams, that sort. Good, but not face-on-money, although he'll certainly look a lot better when held in contrast to his predecessor.


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Old 05-26-2014, 08:26 PM   #85
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Invading Iraq because of Al Queda "links" and WMDs is one of the all-time ****-ups in US history. It's amazing to me how some people are so willing to give a pass on it.

RWers will whine the loudest about poor treatment of veterans (and deficit spending)--but sending them into expensive, unnecessary and poorly-planned wars? A big 'meh.'
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:39 PM   #86
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:41 PM   #87
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Hey, Barry has improved the VA since taking office as he vowed in 07,08(prior),09,10,11,12,13,14
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:42 PM   #88
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I give Obama credit for ending the wars, for doing his part for the recovery from 2008-2009, and for the ACA. Personally, he's set a good role model for education and hard work. I am also glad to see the advancements we're making on social programs, such as gay marriage rights. I also think we're moving toward slowing down the skyrocketing education costs, which is good.
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Old 05-26-2014, 08:46 PM   #89
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Invading Iraq because of Al Queda "links" and WMDs is one of the all-time ****-ups in US history. It's amazing to me how some people are so willing to give a pass on it.

RWers will whine the loudest about poor treatment of veterans (and deficit spending)--but sending them into expensive, unnecessary and poorly-planned wars? A big 'meh.'
Obama knew about this when he took office. Deal with that.
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Old 05-26-2014, 09:01 PM   #90
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Obama knew about this when he took office. Deal with that.
OK...and how does that change W's responsibility or explain W supporters not giving a shit about it?
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