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Old 05-25-2014, 10:12 PM  
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White House exposed top US spy in Afganistan

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...637_story.html



The CIA’s top officer in Kabul was exposed Saturday by the White House when his name was inadvertently included on a list provided to news organizations of senior U.S. officials participating in President Obama’s surprise visit with U.S. troops.

The White House recognized the mistake and quickly issued a revised list that did not include the individual, who had been identified on the initial release as the “Chief of Station” in Kabul, a designation used by the CIA for its highest-ranking spy in a country.
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:30 AM   #16
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She was neither high-ranking nor an agent.
Word games.

Was she an undercover or covert (or insert similar term) employee of the CIA?
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:38 AM   #17
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Old 05-27-2014, 11:47 AM   #18
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Plame had a desk job in Washington, as someone else said, and her status was not a secret inside the beltway. That's a long way from outing a station chief working in Afghanistan.
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:05 PM   #19
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Plame had a desk job in Washington, as someone else said, and her status was not a secret inside the beltway. That's a long way from outing a station chief working in Afghanistan.
From wikipedia, fwiw:

She married Wilson in 1998 and gave birth to their twins in 2000,[28] and resumed travel overseas in 2001, 2002, and 2003 as part of her cover job. She met with workers in the nuclear industry, cultivated sources, and managed spies.[29] One project in which she was involved was ensuring that Iran did not acquire nuclear weapons.[30] During this time, part of her work concerned the determination of the use of aluminum tubes purchased by Iraq.[31].
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:23 PM   #20
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Word games.

Was she an undercover or covert (or insert similar term) employee of the CIA?
Errr, no, it isn't just word games. She was, at least for a time, a NOC CIA officer, not an agent. There's a rather significant difference between the two.

And, she wasn't overseas when she was outed, unlike this cluster****.
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Old 05-27-2014, 02:20 PM   #21
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Errr, no, it isn't just word games. She was, at least for a time, a NOC CIA officer, not an agent. There's a rather significant difference between the two.

And, she wasn't overseas when she was outed, unlike this cluster****.
It's word games because people don't know or care what her exact job title was. What is relevant is whether she was undercover or covert or whatever the correct term is. Also, your statement about her not being overseas when she was outed is a bit vague. Is it relevant where she was at the time? Was she supposed to be covert (or similar word) or not?
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Old 05-27-2014, 02:31 PM   #22
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It's word games because people don't know or care what her exact job title was.
Well, that's a shame.

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What is relevant is whether she was undercover or covert or whatever the correct term is. Also, your statement about her not being overseas when she was outed is a bit vauge. Is it relevant where she was at the time? Was she supposed to be covert (or similar word) or not?
She worked for DO, so yes, she was covert.

Yes, it's relevant whether or not she was outed while being overseas or not. She was at Langley when the story broke. Now, compare that to the White House disclosing the actual name of the SC - Afghanistan while he was still in Afghanistan...
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Old 05-27-2014, 02:36 PM   #23
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It's word games because people don't know or care what her exact job title was. What is relevant is whether she was undercover or covert or whatever the correct term is. Also, your statement about her not being overseas when she was outed is a bit vague. Is it relevant where she was at the time? Was she supposed to be covert (or similar word) or not?


Word games.
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Old 05-27-2014, 03:11 PM   #24
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Well, that's a shame.


She worked for DO, so yes, she was covert.

Yes, it's relevant whether or not she was outed while being overseas or not. She was at Langley when the story broke. Now, compare that to the White House disclosing the actual name of the SC - Afghanistan while he was still in Afghanistan...
So, purposefully revealing the identity of a covert CIA...I guess I'll her her employee...is no big deal?
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Old 05-27-2014, 03:12 PM   #25
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Word games.
WTF are you talking about?
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Old 05-27-2014, 03:13 PM   #26
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I don't think any Republican has a leg to stand on here. It's was a mistake by someone in this regime...whereas it was intentional under the Bush regime regarding Plame. This is the kind of nitpicking that makes the Republicans look bad and petty.
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I don't think any Republican has a leg to stand on here. It's was a mistake by someone in this regime...whereas it was intentional under the Bush regime regarding Plame. This is the kind of nitpicking that makes the Republicans look bad and petty.
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So, purposefully revealing the identity of a covert CIA...I guess I'll her her employee...is no big deal?
I didn't say it wasn't a big deal. It was.

This is worse. Much worse. Purposely or not.
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Old 05-27-2014, 03:52 PM   #29
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I didn't say it wasn't a big deal. It was.

This is worse. Much worse. Purposely or not.
I guess you have your reasons for thinking that, whatever they may be.
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I don't think any Republican has a leg to stand on here. It's was a mistake by someone in this regime...whereas it was intentional under the Bush regime regarding Plame. This is the kind of nitpicking that makes the Republicans look bad and petty.
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