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Old 06-04-2014, 12:45 PM  
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Master's degrees

Who has one (or many)?

Are you currently or recently worked in the field that pertained to your field of study?

Was it worth the time and money?

Does having a post-grad degree prevent you from working on other fields?
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Old 06-04-2014, 04:03 PM   #46
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Already having enough trouble finding jobs that hire HS diploma / GED holders with my awesome bachelors degree from a supposedly well-regarded college so no.
Not to pry, so feel free to ignore, but what is leading you to looking at high school/GED jobs if you have a bachelor's degree?
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Old 06-04-2014, 04:05 PM   #47
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Not to pry, so feel free to ignore, but what is leading you to looking at high school/GED jobs if you have a bachelor's degree?
That's all that are available. Everything else requires 3-5+ years of experience in a similar role or degrees that aren't English and Writing.

Getting JobSeeker Premium on LinkedIn is eye opening. 40% of applicants for a job requiring a HS diploma were MBAs.
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Old 06-04-2014, 04:09 PM   #48
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I tend to think of a master's degree as a focusing force. Ideally, you get your undergraduate degree and go out and work and figure out what you like and what you don't like and who has the cool jobs that you really want. Then you get a master's degree that will help you move into that area by giving you a foot in the door.

In real life, I think people get a master's degree for one of the following reasons:

1. The reason above.
2. To move up at their current job (usually more for qualifications than for skills, but hopefully both happen).
3. Because they don't know what else to do.

The third reason is not great. You can argue that it's better than working a dead-end job, and maybe that's true, but probably only for broad degrees. Getting a specialized master's may not be worth the cost if you're not really thinking about a specific career.
I agree with this. I would also add those that get a specialized master's degree when it is required for their field. Getting a general MBA or something similar just because you want a graduate degree is nice, but you will get the most out of it if it is focused in some way, and if you also have plans for how it will benefit you and some specific ideas of what to do with it upon completion.
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Old 06-04-2014, 05:00 PM   #49
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I'm actually toying with the idea of doing an online law school. I've always been interested in law, and I figure its something I can study on the side (maybe 1-2 courses per semester). Many states would allow me to sit for the bar exam, and be licensed if I pass.

I'm not planning on getting it to work in law, but I think it would be helpful as I transition away from private practice and move toward an administrative role.
From a educational standpoint, it's a great education- no idea how online classes would work as the lectures and engaging & exchange between students is pretty vital. Not sure that they offer any through an ABA accreditated school as an option to get your JD. Things might have changed, but before that would mean you could only sit for the Bar in California or Wisconsin, which don't have reciprocity.

The profession is in need of some reform, but I mean that simply from a standpoint of as Hamas touched on- higher education has become a business of churning out more and more, and the market is over saturated.

It's still one hell of a handy tool for dealing with an ever growing complex life.
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Old 06-04-2014, 05:15 PM   #50
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I don't have a masters and I don't plan on pursuing one either.

I have watched others chase the dream after working in the field for a while and it seems to me that it only offers crippling debt and a high stress level. Long term it might pay off but I just don't see the value for me personally.
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Old 06-04-2014, 06:46 PM   #51
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Old 06-04-2014, 06:50 PM   #52
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It's not that I have a Masters, it's that I have two separate degrees that work hand-in-hand with eachother. If I just had one od them, I would be JAG at my office...I may not have this job. My masters allows me to serve dual purposes.

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So, pretty much confirming that unless you're getting an MBA or are already in the field you want to be in, getting a master's is a terrible idea.

Good to know I'm not as stupid as I think.
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So, pretty much confirming that unless you're getting an MBA or are already in the field you want to be in, getting a master's is a terrible idea.

Good to know I'm not as stupid as I think.

If you have the gpa and gmat score to get in to a top tier MBA school then go and do it asap.

Otherwise I would look for something in inside sales, work for a couple of years and then pursue an MBA. Some companies will even pay for your graduate work.
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Old 06-05-2014, 04:33 AM   #56
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I have a Masters in Special Education. I am working as a high school teacher and my degree was 99% paid for so it was obviously worth the money.

I do know that if I was looking for a teaching job right now, having a masters would hinder my chances of getting hired just because of the funding for education right now.

When I moved back to PA 5 years ago, having a masters was a benefit.
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So, pretty much confirming that unless you're getting an MBA or are already in the field you want to be in, getting a master's is a terrible idea.

Good to know I'm not as stupid as I think.
In this economy, you are going to have to be more proactive in managing your career. If the jobs that you are interested in require 3-5 years of experience to get your foot in the door you need to find some unique advantage that other people may not have. People will overlook qualifications to work with someone they know to be exceptional. Work your connections, do unpaid internships if you can afford to, etc. to get to know people that are in a position of influence in hiring. A different fact would be to find a job that you would be interested in doing where a graduate degree is a difference maker, and then go n that direction with the intent of excelling in hat field. But in this economy, being a sheep in the pack isn't probably a winning strategy. Having a specific direction and working a plan are likely better than just hoping you'll beat the odds in the numbers game.
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I have an MBA. I learned more in the MBA program than I did while doing my entire undergrad. It's definitely helped me immensely at work.

In terms of whether it will benefit you financially in the immediate sense, which a lot of people seem to want to know about, no. But I am sure it will help me in the long run.
MBA's teach you a lot of useful information that you can use the rest of your life.

What you learn is far more valuable than the piece of paper you get. I have a friend who spent 9 years in college studying bullshit and now he sells cars. I have 3 friends with MBA's and all of them are business owners. The guy who has 9 years in school mocks people with MBA's. Go figure.
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So, pretty much confirming that unless you're getting an MBA or are already in the field you want to be in, getting a master's is a terrible idea.

Good to know I'm not as stupid as I think.
Your other option is getting a Master's degree in something that is required to hold that job.

I was not in the field I am currently and decided on a Master's that is REQUIRED to even work in the field I chose. I was a personal trainer and managed a gym two years before deciding on what to get a Master's in. Simply, I wanted one that paid decently, that I would enjoy and where I could find a job easily. That's the other route you should look at. A degree that is required to even work in the field such as Physical/Occupational/Speech therapy as they all require Master's or Doctoral work across the entire country just to work.
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