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Old 06-08-2014, 04:27 PM  
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Texas GOP endorses 'reparative therapy' for gays

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FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) — The Texas Republican Party now endorses so-called "reparative therapy" for gays, under a new platform given final approval at its annual convention Saturday.

The new anti-gay language never came up for debate before roughly 7,000 delegates ratified a Texas GOP platform that tea party groups succeeded in pushing further to the right, including winning a harder line on immigration.

One influential tea party group called Texas Eagle Forum had urged the party to support psychological treatments that seek to turn gay people straight. It comes after Republican New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie last fall signed a law banning such therapies on minors, and California has a similar law.

The Fort Worth Convention Hall cheered when party leaders announced that Christie finished a distant 11th in a 2016 presidential straw poll.

"There's a very, very small group of people who want to keep the party in the past. We were here today to try to pull the party into the future," said Rudy Oeftering, vice president of the gay conservative group Metroplex Republicans. "The only way the party can go into the future is to start listening to young people, to start listening to people who have gay family members."

Oeftering and allies had lined up to speak against the therapy language that had been added earlier this week. But they never got a chance to address delegates, because a parliamentary motion to approve the full platform was called first.

Under the new plank, the Texas GOP recognizes "the legitimacy and efficacy of counseling, which offers reparative therapy and treatment for those patients seeking healing and wholeness from their homosexual lifestyle."

The American Psychological Association and other major health organizations have condemned such counseling, which generally try to change a person's sexual orientation or to lessen their interest in engaging in same-sex sexual activity. The groups say the practice should not be used on minors because of the danger of serious psychological harm.

"The platform reflects what the people in the Republican Party have asked for, and that should be no surprise: family values, protection of marriage between one man and one woman and everything that goes along with that," said Jonathan Saenz, president of the conservative group Texas Values and a convention delegate.

Gay conservatives did come away with a rare victory at the convention: Winning the removal of decades-old language in the state party platform that states, "homosexuality tears at the fabric of society."
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Old 06-13-2014, 06:27 PM   #61
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I tend to think homosexuality is inborn and not much of a choice, but I (and the Left) have no proof of that. It's just a theory. By the same token I also think opposition to it is also inborn but the Left doesn't think it can't be solved with a little bit o' "sensitivity training". Which is another term for "reparative therapy."
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Old 06-14-2014, 04:42 PM   #62
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This waste of time shit from fake conservatives (i.e. the Bible Thumper crowd) will get us a surefire Hillary Clinton presidency in 2016.
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Old 06-14-2014, 06:14 PM   #63
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This waste of time shit from fake conservatives (i.e. the Bible Thumper crowd) will get us a surefire Hillary Clinton presidency in 2016.
I think it's goofy as hell, but I think new age crystal bullshit and horoscope readings are goofy too. I am more prone to think, "Get over it. You like to suck dicks, just go suck some dicks and be happy with yourself." But to each their own. If we can can extend courtesy and compassion to guys who think that they should have been born as women then we can extend that same courtesy and compassion to guys who want to fight their homosexual urges.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:02 AM   #64
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I think it's goofy as hell, but I think new age crystal bullshit and horoscope readings are goofy too. I am more prone to think, "Get over it. You like to suck dicks, just go suck some dicks and be happy with yourself." But to each their own. If we can can extend courtesy and compassion to guys who think that they should have been born as women then we can extend that same courtesy and compassion to guys who want to fight their homosexual urges.
I completely agree with you that Libs should just accept folks who don't agree with homosexuality, and in your words embrace "to each their own" rather than tryin to get then fired from their jobs.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:54 AM   #65
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I completely agree with you that Libs should just accept folks who don't agree with homosexuality, and in your words embrace "to each their own" rather than tryin to get then fired from their jobs.
Stop not tolerating my intolerance.
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Old 06-15-2014, 10:55 AM   #66
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I completely agree with you that Libs should just accept folks who don't agree with homosexuality, and in your words embrace "to each their own" rather than tryin to get then fired from their jobs.
Yeah, they're tolerate of anything BUT conservative, especially religious views.
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Old 06-15-2014, 11:00 AM   #67
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Yeah, they're tolerate of anything BUT conservative, especially religious views.
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Old 06-15-2014, 11:37 AM   #68
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I think reparative therapy should be available in the free market--not as part of a political platform.

If someone wants to try it. So what? Let them determine if it works.
People are welcome to seek therapy regarding their struggles with sexuality. They just won't find a counselor who says they will be able to "cure" you. But as long as that is clear with the client and the therapist from the beginning then subsequent counseling is perfectly acceptable.
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Old 06-15-2014, 11:57 AM   #69
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People are welcome to seek therapy regarding their struggles with sexuality. They just won't find a counselor who says they will be able to "cure" you. But as long as that is clear with the client and the therapist from the beginning then subsequent counseling is perfectly acceptable.
Where'd you think I thought otherwise, Capt Obvious. That profession admits they don't have cures for many things.
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I didn't say there was a war on Christianity. Strawman.

All laws are based on someone's morality. Constitution allows community standards to prevail in local areas.

Besides those are just the mirror image side of your side. You lack respect and tolerance for property rights.
And you enforce acceptance of other's choices too.
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I'd say that cartoon is a rather accurate representation of the hardline Christian folk in this country.
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Yeah, they're tolerate of anything BUT conservative, especially religious views.
Listo suggested a "live and let live" policy towards fellow citizens and I completely agree that Libs need to hear and embrace that message instead of trying to get people fired for even disagreeing with them
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Where'd you think I thought otherwise, Capt Obvious. That profession admits they don't have cures for many things.
You didn't say it should be available? Not that it is available? And no, you won't find so done that will say they can cure you (reparative therapy) because that assumes it is a mental disorder, which the mental health professions do not.

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I didn't say there was a war on Christianity. Strawman.

All laws are based on someone's morality. Constitution allows community standards to prevail in local areas.

Besides those are just the mirror image side of your side. You lack respect and tolerance for property rights.
And you enforce acceptance of other's choices too.
I never said you did say that. Strawman.

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Listo suggested a "live and let live" policy towards fellow citizens and I completely agree that Libs need to hear and embrace that message instead of trying to get people fired for even disagreeing with them
I agree. Sure people are within their rights to complain, but shouting someone down and getting rid of someone because they disagree with you isn't really productive in the grand scheme of things.
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