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Old 06-10-2014, 08:45 AM  
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Did anyone see Hillary Clintons interview on ABC?

She claims her and Bill were "poor" when they left the white house.
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:24 PM   #76
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Had a co-worker that was friends with a SS guy way back when. He was assigned to Algores during the Clinton Administration. I was told he said Tipper was nice. Seems plausible
Well there was an entire book written about the going-ons at the WH under the Clintons by a former FBI agent who was a careerist up there--Unlimited Access.

You had a co worker? Gee, if I posted that I had a friend who was dating a SS agent who had covered the WH for awhile, I'd be crucified. ( which is true) It's a well known inside-the-beltway secret that Hillary is bi-sexual. She was caught twice in bed with two Hollywood actresses. If someone on the right exposed that in the press, so many others would be exposed too. There's lots more that suggest the Clinton's had a open marriage. Her marriage is sham--exists only for access to power. JMO Not so with the Obamas.

I don't think Dee Snider of Twisted Sister cared for Tipper. Although she does seem like a nice lady.
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:46 PM   #77
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I dont know drone bombing innocent people seems extreme but people overlook it.
Point taken. Definitely extreme.
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:48 PM   #78
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drone bombing, ACA, IRS, racist AG...none of this extreme to Direckshun
The ACA was a Republican idea. The IRS shit was largely, if not entirely, fluff.

Obama's only extreme actions of his Presidency, as far as I can note, has been his rightwing expansion of the NSA and drone warfare.
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:49 PM   #79
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She couldn't successfully manage her own family let alone the State Department. She better get as much cash as she can in speaking engagements now while she still can.

Seriously, what exactly does the left see in her? What quality does she possess that makes her a leader?
Define leader, because that term has become extremely fluid with conservatives over the course of the Obama administration.
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:53 PM   #80
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She's a failed mother and wife. She taught her daughter and other young girls if they want something bad enough in life its OK to sell your dignity and respect. Same goes for being a wife.
What does that even mean? A "failed" mother and wife?

I have literally never heard that described. She seems to have a healthy relationship with her daughter. Her relationship with Clinton has obviously been a political vehicle, but that's their choice.

You can disagree with how she's raised her daughter, and you can disagree with the nature of her marriage to Clinton, but to brand her as "failed" because you have different philosophies.
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:59 PM   #81
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I am not making this up at all - I knew a girl, a classmate when I was in college, who was an intern at the White House during the Clinton administration. This was after Monica. She worked in the travel office (which had just had a major scandal a few years before), but she met him several times in the course of her work. I'm tempted to tell a story she told me about him here, but I don't know if she would want me sharing it in a public place like this.
Come on man. spill the popcorn
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:41 PM   #82
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Well there was an entire book written about the going-ons at the WH under the Clintons by a former FBI agent who was a careerist up there--Unlimited Access.

You had a co worker? Gee, if I posted that I had a friend who was dating a SS agent who had covered the WH for awhile, I'd be crucified. ( which is true) It's a well known inside-the-beltway secret that Hillary is bi-sexual. She was caught twice in bed with two Hollywood actresses. If someone on the right exposed that in the press, so many others would be exposed too. There's lots more that suggest the Clinton's had a open marriage. Her marriage is sham--exists only for access to power. JMO Not so with the Obamas.

I don't think Dee Snider of Twisted Sister cared for Tipper. Although she does seem like a nice lady.
Oh, I didn't realize there was a book.

An inside-the-beltway secret, huh?
Good thing people inside the beltway are very respectful of others and haven't exposed the secret.
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:42 PM   #83
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I am not making this up at all - I knew a girl, a classmate when I was in college, who was an intern at the White House during the Clinton administration. This was after Monica. She worked in the travel office (which had just had a major scandal a few years before), but she met him several times in the course of her work. I'm tempted to tell a story she told me about him here, but I don't know if she would want me sharing it in a public place like this.
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:45 PM   #84
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Come on man. spill the popcorn
I'd love to but I really shouldn't.
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Old 06-11-2014, 07:08 PM   #85
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Define leader, because that term has become extremely fluid with conservatives over the course of the Obama administration.
A leader uses their vision to take whatever into some kind of direction. They don't lie about it, they lay facts as they know them out and use their vision to direct the masses into a combined believed direction.

If you want to make direct comparisons we can use the Iraq war and Obamacare.

Bush AND the democrats believed Saddam was a threat so he was taken out.

Obama knew after Obamacare was passed his statements were lies but he kept/keeps repeating them. One might consider that leading but it's with only with a narcissist point of view. And Obama has no history of being smarter than anyone on the planet.
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Old 06-11-2014, 07:12 PM   #86
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Bush AND the democrats believed Saddam was a threat so he was taken out.
The Democrats later said they were lied on that, and they were. The Bush admin knew Saddam didn't have WMD. Furthermore, letting him remain an ally would have helped us in the WoT, by not allowing AQ to move further west which they have. Sooner or later, they could be here.
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Old 06-11-2014, 07:14 PM   #87
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A leader uses their vision to take whatever into some kind of direction.
Beautiful.

And to think I had the gall to suggest conservatives had a fluid definition of leadership.
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Old 06-11-2014, 07:21 PM   #88
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Beautiful.

And to think I had the gall to suggest conservatives had a fluid definition of leadership.

Its great to have leadership defined by Obama and Holder.
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Old 06-11-2014, 07:29 PM   #89
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Beautiful.

And to think I had the gall to suggest conservatives had a fluid definition of leadership.
Which is fine, although Obama has proven a certain direction of leadership a complete ****ing disaster, and I mean that in every direction.

I'd run with that if I was Hillary in 2016. Look how good we are now.
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