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Old 06-10-2014, 09:45 AM  
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Did anyone see Hillary Clintons interview on ABC?

She claims her and Bill were "poor" when they left the white house.
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Old 06-11-2014, 08:34 PM   #91
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Which is fine, although Obama has proven a certain direction of leadership a complete ****ing disaster, and I mean that in every direction.
We've known each other for several years now, so I hope you know I'm being serious when I say I have no idea what any of this means.

A leader is a guy who takes a vision in a direction? Unless it's Obama?

I am royally confused.
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Old 06-11-2014, 08:34 PM   #92
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I think she was a good mom. Chelsea turned out as good as could be expected with her ****ed up folks. Good on her

Bill was and is a scum bag.

Hillary is a smart woman with a huge power need. She was an OK senator and a poor ass SecState under a power mad President.

She won't win the big job. Young folks won't support her. Blacks don't give a shit bout an old white woman wife of a southern governor…get real. And women won't support her. She is a smart lady who needs to get out or she will be embarrassed again.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:08 PM   #93
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I think she was a good mom. Chelsea turned out as good as could be expected with her ****ed up folks. Good on her

Bill was and is a scum bag.

Hillary is a smart woman with a huge power need. She was an OK senator and a poor ass SecState under a power mad President.

She won't win the big job. Young folks won't support her. Blacks don't give a shit bout an old white woman wife of a southern governor…get real. And women won't support her. She is a smart lady who needs to get out or she will be embarrassed again.
Bill at least was likeable. He was a scumbag for sure and I didn't care for his politics at all, but deep down he was a good ol boy from Arkansas. That made him halfway likeable. Hillary is a pampered ass bitch.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:11 PM   #94
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Bill had experience dealing with a more conservative legislature. Due to that he could deal with the give and take of compromise. Obama lacks this since he's never run anything as a chief executive. Same with Hillary. She knows how to ride a man's coat tails all the way up the ladder.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:14 PM   #95
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Switch the party and see where the outrage comes from.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:17 PM   #96
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Sarah Palin?

At least she governed something.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:20 PM   #97
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Sarah Palin?

At least she governed something.
No. If this was a quote from a millionaire former Republican the media would be going ape shit.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:50 PM   #98
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We've known each other for several years now, so I hope you know I'm being serious when I say I have no idea what any of this means.

A leader is a guy who takes a vision in a direction? Unless it's Obama?

I am royally confused.
I'll take it a step further and consider us friends that would share a cocktail.

My point was the far left considers him a leader while the rest of us considers him a moron taking us in the wrong direction.

So as a conservative if I were Hillary I'd run on the leadership we've had since 2008 since she can point to so many positives.

Obama leads from behind. His vision now is only how much money he can make speaking on the circuit.
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:09 PM   #99
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No. If this was a quote from a millionaire former Republican the media would be going ape shit.
Ah! I see.
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:12 PM   #100
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If Hillary Clinton is all the left has to offer for ideas the party is doomed.
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:27 PM   #101
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As a Democrat who spends plenty of time around other Democrats, the prevailing wisdom is that it's Hillary's turn. And that she is perhaps the most eminently electable female Presidential candidate in American history so far. Which is pretty exciting.

If you polled Democrat's dream wish, it would almost certainly be Elizabeth Warren.

And I have a feeling we'll be seeing her in 2024, since I believe that (a.) Christie-Rubio is going to beat Clinton-Nixon, and (b.) Warren will wait out 2020, and take on Rubio at the conclusion of Christie's second term.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:20 AM   #102
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As a Democrat who spends plenty of time around other Democrats, the prevailing wisdom is that it's Hillary's turn. And that she is perhaps the most eminently electable female Presidential candidate in American history so far. Which is pretty exciting.

If you polled Democrat's dream wish, it would almost certainly be Elizabeth Warren.

And I have a feeling we'll be seeing her in 2024, since I believe that (a.) Christie-Rubio is going to beat Clinton-Nixon, and (b.) Warren will wait out 2020, and take on Rubio at the conclusion of Christie's second term.
There's something predominantly wrong with a political party that chooses candidates based on taking turns. I wonder how much that thinking is to blame for the last 6 years sucking so badly.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:34 AM   #103
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There's something predominantly wrong with a political party that chooses candidates based on taking turns. I wonder how much that thinking is to blame for the last 6 years sucking so badly.
To be honest, her turn was supposed to be last time and she was co-opted by Obama. She whined about how this was to be her chance and that she worked for it her whole life. I saw her say that live.


And the Republicans do the "someone's turn" too or has. That was supposed to be Bush when Reagan won it. It was a dirty fight 'cause Reagan wasn't supposed to happen. Bush Sr just had to bide his time until after Reagan which he did and got it.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:42 AM   #104
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There's something predominantly wrong with a political party that chooses candidates based on taking turns. I wonder how much that thinking is to blame for the last 6 years sucking so badly.
The irony of this post is amazing.
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:50 AM   #105
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There's something predominantly wrong with a political party that chooses candidates based on taking turns. I wonder how much that thinking is to blame for the last 6 years sucking so badly.
GOP is all about taking turns. Why do you think we got such luminary candidates like Dole and McCain?

The candidates get worse each election cycle because each party puts up the next schlub who has put in their time.
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