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Old 06-10-2014, 05:43 PM  
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Eric Cantor is in trouble

This could be a little early, but the House Majority Leader appears to be going down.

He was expected to easily turn aside a tea party challenger, but Eric Cantor is now losing by a whopping 11 points in his primary with about 51% of precincts reporting.
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:20 PM   #136
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Forgot to mention another aspect of this:

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Doubtful. The Roberts court has taken the position stare decisis means dick.

The Constitution does not mandate stare decisis--particularly if a case demonstrates it was erroneously decided.
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:39 PM   #137
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The Constitution does not mandate stare decisis--particularly if a case demonstrates it was erroneously decided.
You're the one arguing for it, sweetie. Keep up.
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Old 06-11-2014, 01:56 PM   #138
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You're the one arguing for it, sweetie. Keep up.
Well, only if you spin it. You left out part of what I said on that to make that claim. I said if a case has been erroneously decided. You're actually arguing for super stare decisis--at least initially.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:03 PM   #139
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Democrats fund raise off of Cantor loss.

Yet, I thought Cantor's loss was supposed to be a BAD sign for Republicans per what is being spun here by the our resident leftists.

They sound scared.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepa...-loss-n1850192

Meanwhile, foreign children being tossed over the border, because they have effectively been invited, is happening at an opportune time which doesn't bode well for the left or the Establishment.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:09 PM   #140
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The tea party has pushed the ideology of the entire R party so far to the right that the primary process going forward will likely poison the winner's electability.
I couldn't disagree more.

RHINO reps. have poisoned their electability the last two elections. Reps aren't turning out to vote because the final product isn't conservative and is a sham.

Current Reps don't fight for what they believe in - they fight against bills and other Dems they don't agree with...
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:25 PM   #141
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The Constitution does not mandate stare decisis--particularly if a case demonstrates it was erroneously decided.
Which makes in even more odd that you would apparently argue that a Cons amendment is needed.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:30 PM   #142
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Which makes in even more odd that you would apparently argue that a Cons amendment is needed.
Not at all. If'n you can read with comprehension, you'd see that Citizens was not erroneously decided per my view. So it corrects the record. Therefore, we'd need an amendment to change. Particularly so soon after the latest decision and with Robert's on the court or the current court and if you want to keep it decided the way you want since your view turns the words of the Constitution upside down or rather shreds the meaning.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:32 PM   #143
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Explain to me why I see leftists already opting for an amendment to replace the Citizens United case decision so it's their way.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:35 PM   #144
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Not at all. If'n you can read with comprehension, you'd see that Citizens was not erroneously decided per my view. So it corrects the record. Therefore, we'd need an amendment to change. Particularly so soon after the latest decision and with Robert's on the court or the current court and if you want to keep it decided the way you want since your view turns the words of the Constitution upside down or rather shreds the meaning.
Yes, your view.
But certainly you know that a future court deciding a similar case could decide the prior court was incorrect.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:36 PM   #145
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Wut was that noise?
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:38 PM   #146
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Explain to me why I see leftists already opting for an amendment to replace the Citizens United case decision so it's their way.
Because that would be a faster way to get it done, rather than waiting and hoping for some future court.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:38 PM   #147
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Hallucinating again, I see.
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The Voters of Nevada Choose… ‘None Of The Above’ In Democratic Primary For Governor
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:38 PM   #148
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Wut was that noise?
That's very rude.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:43 PM   #149
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None of These Candidates is a voting option for Nevada voters for President of the United States and for state constitutional positions. This option is listed along with the names of individuals running for the position and is often described as "none of the above".

The option first appeared on the Nevada ballot in 1975.[1]

Even if the "None of These Candidates" option receives the most votes in an election, the actual candidate who receives the most votes still wins the election. In the 2014 Democratic primary for Nevada's Governor, "None of These Candidates" won 30% of the popular vote, a plurality. Robert Goodman, the runner-up with 24.8% of the vote, will be the Democratic nominee by state law.[2] In the 1976 Republican primary for Nevada's At-large congressional district, None of These Candidates received 16,097 votes, while Walden Earhart won 9,831 votes, followed by Dart Anthony with 8,097 votes. Even though he received fewer votes than "None of These Candidates", Earhart received the Republican nomination.[1] He went on to lose to incumbent Democratic Congressman Jim Santini in the general election.

The None of These Candidates option has played a spoiler effect in close races, such as in the 1998 Senate Election, in which Democratic incumbent Harry Reid defeated Republican challenger John Ensign by only 428 votes, while None of These Candidates drew 8,125 votes.[3]
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:03 PM   #150
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That's a whole lot of speculation for an opinion. I think people will be just as sick of left-wing rule as they were of Bush Republican big govt rule. Especially since polls consistently show a majority thinks our govt is doing too much.

You don't know what's gonna happen. No one else does either. Anyone who predicts such things, is obviously imparting their own bias into such predictions.
People are sick of big govt rule. They are also fed up with Congress and Republican stonewalling and the polls show that too. And most of the stonewalling has come from tea party influence.

Like I said... if Hilary Clinton wins the election and she is the type who could win 2 elections, then what was accomplished with 12-16 years of white house rule? If the tea party coup ousts Republican leaders thus hurting their voice in the houses and potentially the Republican majority, then what exactly was accomplished?

It's one thing to be principled. It's another thing to have influence. Ousting key leaders and if they lose the majority isn't going to help the party. Nor is it going to help if they lose the general Presidential election. They have to hope that an extreme conservative position is going to win enough general elections to make them relevant and that is as speculative a bet as any.
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