Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > D.C.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-10-2014, 05:43 PM  
alnorth alnorth is offline
MVP
 
alnorth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Iowania
Casino cash: $12397942
Eric Cantor is in trouble

This could be a little early, but the House Majority Leader appears to be going down.

He was expected to easily turn aside a tea party challenger, but Eric Cantor is now losing by a whopping 11 points in his primary with about 51% of precincts reporting.
Posts: 25,465
alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 06:43 PM   #46
dirk digler dirk digler is offline
Please squeeze
 
dirk digler's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Clinton, MO
Casino cash: $185742
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog View Post
Eric Cantors pollster had him leading by 34 percent lol
He must have used the same pollsters as Romney.
Posts: 48,195
dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 06:47 PM   #47
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
BucPatriot
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $107511
According to govtrack.us Cantor is called a centrist.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/mem..._cantor/400060


His average on missing votes is higher than the average.
__________________
“Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” — James Madison
Posts: 56,149
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 06:49 PM   #48
GloryDayz GloryDayz is offline
Good luck KC Chiefs...
 
GloryDayz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lee's Summit, MO
Casino cash: $138688
Boom..... It's time for the rest of the right-wing to understand that it's time to take off the gloves and fight the LWNJs ruthlessly...

I'll have to take time off of work to help with conservative events touting "vote early and often" efforts.
Posts: 20,560
GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 06:50 PM   #49
GloryDayz GloryDayz is offline
Good luck KC Chiefs...
 
GloryDayz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lee's Summit, MO
Casino cash: $138688
Quote:
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea View Post
According to govtrack.us Cantor is called a centrist.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/mem..._cantor/400060


His average on missing votes is higher than the average.
Well, his centrist ways have him calling Mayflower now...
Posts: 20,560
GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 06:55 PM   #50
alnorth alnorth is offline
MVP
 
alnorth's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Iowania
Casino cash: $12397942
Quote:
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea View Post
They are basing that on freedom principles--not the number of votes. However, I gave you another average which also uses freedom principles based on the Constitution and that's an average from 1999-2013. It doesn't even cover 2014 which the Freedomworks number is based on alone. The FW's one showed he had a better rating some other years--not all by huge leaps but better. Some were conservative years. But for 2014 he's lower at 44% but 56% from 1999-2013. That appears to be his range. He's not really conservative. Fairly conservative would be around 75%. Leaning would be about 65% based on what the conservative ideology is about; limited govt, low taxes etc.
"Fairly conservative" from the viewpoint of a normal person who is themselves not necessarily conservative, would be a lot lower on a scale created by Freedomworks.

Thats the problem with these ratings, once their party pretty much supports an issue they care about more than 90-95%, they stop scoring that vote. They artificially cherry-pick the votes to make certain they have people falling along a broad scale.

I don't give a damn about someone's need to create an attractive rating system that creates seperation from the tiniest of differences, is he conservative, yes or no? Just look at the votes.

On a quick glance, I noted that Cantor voted against Obamacare every chance he got, voted to defund planned parenthood, voted to cut support for NPR, voted for the Paul Ryan budgets, etc. This is a very conservative dude when compared to the nation.

You might view those as "boring" "no-brainer" votes that every Republican should be for, but the house republicans are extremely conservative, and failing to be the most right-wing of THAT group is not evidence at all of not being conservative.
__________________
<WarMoose> Think about how stupid the average person is. Now realize that half of them are dumber than that.
<Chunda> Why half?
Posts: 25,465
alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.alnorth 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 06:58 PM   #51
cosmo20002 cosmo20002 is offline
Debunking your bullshit
 
cosmo20002's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: KC area
Casino cash: $121199
Cochise, patteeu and Eric Cantor--just a bunch of liberals

/BEP
Posts: 17,271
cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.cosmo20002 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 07:00 PM   #52
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
BucPatriot
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $107511
Quote:
Originally Posted by alnorth View Post
"Fairly conservative" from the viewpoint of a normal person who is themselves not necessarily conservative, would be a lot lower on a scale created by Freedomworks.
Well, I would think he should be judged by conservatives--real ones--not folks on the left. Today's left is so far left, they think someone 56% on limited govt voting is an extremist. It says more about them.

Now a normal person? Whatever normal means. Sounds pretty subjective. I don't consider knowing what conservatism really is, may be known by the average person today anyway. Yet, they can still form an opinion about it in free country. Just have to look at what they know and when you see these "normal" or average folks get interviewed on the street who don't know who is Secretary of State, one has to wonder.

Quote:
Thats the problem with these ratings, once their party pretty much supports an issue they care about more than 90-95%, they stop scoring that vote. They artificially cherry-pick the votes to make certain they have people falling along a broad scale.
Well, that's sounds like an assumption. The long term voting record of Cantor tells me enough.

Quote:
I don't give a damn about someone's need to create an attractive rating system that creates seperation from the tiniest of differences, is he conservative, yes or no? Just look at the votes.
Well there's conservative here already who are familiar with his votes or stands and they have called him a RINO.

Quote:
On a quick glance, I noted that Cantor voted against Obamacare every chance he got, voted to defund planned parenthood, voted to cut support for NPR, voted for the Paul Ryan budgets, etc. This is a very conservative dude when compared to the nation.
Paul Ryan's budgets were a joke. His budget wasn't a whole lot different than Obama's. As to the other votes, he has had conservative years just not in 2014. But you're cherry picking what he has voted on as conservative. The system used from 1999-2013 has compiled such records for decades on all congresscritters.

Quote:
You might view those as "boring" "no-brainer" votes that every Republican should be for, but the house republicans are extremely conservative, and failing to be the most right-wing of THAT group is not evidence at all of not being conservative.
There are more conservatives in the House, in fact more Tea Partiers there. We'll have to disagree, since true Conservativism, using the Constitution as a guide, is not being "most right-wing." It's actually a balance between too much govt and too little per our Framers. We've been so far off course of that, it gets a bad name from the left.
__________________
“Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” — James Madison

Last edited by BucEyedPea; 06-10-2014 at 07:07 PM..
Posts: 56,149
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 07:12 PM   #53
GloryDayz GloryDayz is offline
Good luck KC Chiefs...
 
GloryDayz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lee's Summit, MO
Casino cash: $138688
Quote:
Originally Posted by cosmo20002 View Post
Cochise, patteeu and Eric Cantor--just a bunch of liberals

/BEP
There you go throwing labels around. That's mental molestation!

Posts: 20,560
GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 07:18 PM   #54
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
BucPatriot
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $107511
Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryDayz View Post
There you go throwing labels around. That's mental molestation!
Well, he's a liar because I never said Cantor was a liberal. I just said he was not conservative.
__________________
“Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” — James Madison
Posts: 56,149
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 07:19 PM   #55
planetdoc planetdoc is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $25102
Quote:
Originally Posted by GloucesterChief View Post
Incumbents losing their job is always good.
I'll qualify that as "almost always good."

Posts: 1,963
planetdoc has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 07:22 PM   #56
Chocolate Hog Chocolate Hog is offline
Winner
 
Chocolate Hog's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: My house
Casino cash: $2014874
The Ryan plan is conservative?
Posts: 34,050
Chocolate Hog 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chocolate Hog 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chocolate Hog 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chocolate Hog 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chocolate Hog 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chocolate Hog 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chocolate Hog 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chocolate Hog 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chocolate Hog 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chocolate Hog 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Chocolate Hog 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 07:25 PM   #57
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
BucPatriot
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $107511
Well, if Cantor is a conservative then why would he do this with Soros?

Republican Cantor to Headline Anti-Tea Party Conference Sponsored by George Soros & Unions


Speaker Boehner was even going to attend. Love the letter that Bozell wrote calling him out for working with a group dedicated to the destruction of grass roots conservatives.

So glad he didn't win.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...-soros-unions/
__________________
“Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” — James Madison
Posts: 56,149
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 07:29 PM   #58
GloryDayz GloryDayz is offline
Good luck KC Chiefs...
 
GloryDayz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lee's Summit, MO
Casino cash: $138688
I guess it's party time in parts of D.C... Any CP'ers in this pic?

Posts: 20,560
GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 07:42 PM   #59
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
BucPatriot
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $107511
I hear Paul Ryan, McCain, Graham and McConnell are vying for amnesty too.
__________________
“Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” — James Madison
Posts: 56,149
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 07:50 PM   #60
ILChief ILChief is offline
MVP
 
ILChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2001
Casino cash: $10066821
Quote:
Originally Posted by cosmo20002 View Post
Cantor losing = teabaggers will be emboldened = President Hillary
I hope so
Posts: 6,089
ILChief would the whole thing.ILChief would the whole thing.ILChief would the whole thing.ILChief would the whole thing.ILChief would the whole thing.ILChief would the whole thing.ILChief would the whole thing.ILChief would the whole thing.ILChief would the whole thing.ILChief would the whole thing.ILChief would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:06 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.