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Old 06-10-2014, 05:43 PM  
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Eric Cantor is in trouble

This could be a little early, but the House Majority Leader appears to be going down.

He was expected to easily turn aside a tea party challenger, but Eric Cantor is now losing by a whopping 11 points in his primary with about 51% of precincts reporting.
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:30 PM   #76
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This is great for the nation. The tea baggers will be ecstatic while the GOP takes 3 torpedoes in the side.
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:36 PM   #77
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The things a candidate is going to have to say to get through the Republican Presidential Primary are going to be insane and hilarious.
I'm gonna love it!
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:50 PM   #78
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This is great for the nation. The tea baggers will be ecstatic while the GOP takes 3 torpedoes in the side.
Well THAT reply will keep you off of the FLOTUS' bean-ball list. Way to save ur nuts..
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:03 PM   #79
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The things a candidate is going to have to say to get through the Republican Presidential Primary are going to be insane and hilarious.
What difference does it make?





* I agree with you but I just had to take the cheap shot.
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:07 PM   #80
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Honest question: Does either party know what they stand for? Other than, "This election was brought to you by the letters "D" and "R", and the number "0."
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:11 PM   #81
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Honest question: Does either party know what they stand for? Other than, "This election was brought to you by the letters "D" and "R", and the number "0."
They are both for the government being in your business. Also, paying off their cronies with your money.

So no real difference.
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:28 PM   #82
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http://www.redstate.com/2014/06/10/w...c-cantor-lost/

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The media will play up Cantor’s loss by claiming it was about immigration. They will be wrong, but it will be useful for the rest of us. Immigration reform is now DOA in the House of Representatives thanks to David Brat.

But Cantor really did not lose because of immigration alone. Immigration was the surface reason that galvanized the opposition to Cantor, but the opposition could not have been galvanized with this issue had Cantor been a better congressman these past few years.

He and his staff have repeatedly antagonized conservatives. One conservative recently told me that Cantor’s staff were the “biggest bunch of a**holes on the Hill.” An establishment consultant who backed Cantor actually agreed with this assessment. That attitude moved with Cantor staffers to K Street, the NRSC, and elsewhere generating ill will toward them and Cantor. Many of them were perceived to still be assisting Cantor in other capacities. After Cantor’s loss tonight, I got a high volume of emails from excited conservatives, but also more than a handful of emails from those with establishment Republican leanings all expressing variations on “good riddance.”

Cantor’s constituent services moved more toward focusing on running the Republican House majority than his congressional district. K Street, the den of Washington lobbyists, became his chief constituency. In Virginia a couple of months ago, several residents of Cantor’s district groused that they were going to support Brat because they did not think Cantor was doing his job as a Virginia congressman. Others no longer trusted him.
Cantor and his staff both lost the trust of conservatives and constituents.

They broke promises, made bad deals, and left many feeling very, very betrayed. Much of it was because of Cantor’s hubris and the arrogance of his top staffers. He could not be touched and he could not be defeated. He knew it and they knew it. He kept his attention off his district, constituents, and conservatives while he and his staff plotted to get the Speaker’s chair.

Cantor lost his race because he was running for Speaker of the House of Representatives while his constituents wanted a congressman. The tea party and conservatives capitalized on that with built up distrust over Cantor’s other promises and made a convincing case Cantor could not be trusted on immigration either. By trying to be both a Virginia congressman and a worthy successor to the Speaker in K-Street’s eyes, Cantor made it easy for conservatives to mount an under the radar case against him.
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:32 PM   #83
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That makes little sense because most voters love when their rep is as powerful as Cantor was
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:41 PM   #84
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It makes sense after you watch this video from 2 months ago where he tried to get his guy elected District Chairman and got booed and his guy got beat.

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Old 06-10-2014, 11:03 PM   #85
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This is pretty awesome.
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Old 06-10-2014, 11:06 PM   #86
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Immigration reform is now DOA in the House of Representatives thanks to David Brat

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Old 06-10-2014, 11:13 PM   #87
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Someone call the engraver. We're going to need to add another line on the tea party tombstone.
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Old 06-10-2014, 11:17 PM   #88
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I don't even know what this "establishment" nonsense you are babbling about even means, it does not mean "moderate".
It means "DC Republican" with a greasy palm.
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Old 06-10-2014, 11:29 PM   #89
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The things a candidate is going to have to say to get through the Republican Presidential Primary are going to be insane and hilarious.
This is going to be very interesting. Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are going to be taking a lot of the air out of the room and anchoring the discussion around Tea Party points. Both of them are well spoken and are good at manuevering around tight spots. Scott Walker, Chris Christie, and Ben Dover are going to have a difficult time getting any grass roots enthusiasm behind them given the Paul/Cruz dynamic.

I think in the end, Paul will win because of the roots he's planted with the establishment. Not sure how I feel about that, but politics is a full contact sport...
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This is going to be very interesting. Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are going to be taking a lot of the air out of the room and anchoring the discussion around Tea Party points. Both of them are well spoken and are good at manuevering around tight spots. Scott Walker, Chris Christie, and Ben Dover are going to have a difficult time getting any grass roots enthusiasm behind them given the Paul/Cruz dynamic.

I think in the end, Paul will win because of the roots he's planted with the establishment. Not sure how I feel about that, but politics is a full contact sport...
I think Paul has shown himself to be the more savvy speaker, and that he puts out an image of being more capable of working with the other side than Cruz.
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