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Old 06-11-2014, 03:04 PM  
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Oklahoma Tea Party Candidate Supports Stoning Gay People to Death

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2..._to_death.html

Given how savagely anti-gay the mainstream Oklahoma Republican party is, itís no surprise that the stateís Tea Partiers are so rabidly hateful that they come across more as dark satire than as serious bigots. To wit: This week, an Oklahoma magazine discovered that last summer, Tea Party state House candidate Scott Esk endorsed stoning gay people to death: ďI think we would be totally in the right to do it,Ē he said in a Facebook post. Esk went on to add nuance to his position:

That [stoning gay people to death] goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and Iím largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.

When a Facebook user messaged Esk to clarify further, he responded:

I never said I would author legislation to put homosexuals to death, but I didnít have a problem with it.

Understandably unnerved, the magazine called up Esk for clarification. Although Esk claimed he didnít remember the comments, he fleshed out his views:

That was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God and in that time there it was totally just. It came directly from God. I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins.

Pressed one final time about his position on stoning gay human beings to death, Esk dug in his heels:

I know what was done in the Old Testament and what was done back then was whatís just. Ö And I do stand for Biblical morality.

I am impressed that Esk has some understanding of the concept of morality. But I am not quite certain that his views square with modern notions of the concept. I do suspect, however, that Eskís beliefs arenít all that far from the other state-level Republicans in the region, who recently attempted to push through the most extreme piece of anti-gay legislation America has ever witnessed. Perhaps our criticism of Esk, then, is really misguided: Rather than chastising him for his seemingly extremist views, we should be thanking him for saying what so many of his political associates are likely thinking.

Mark Joseph Stern is a writer for Slate. He covers science, the law, and LGBTQ issues.
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:06 PM   #2
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:08 PM   #3
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:15 PM   #4
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:21 PM   #5
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Only Pitt would use a left-wing tactic to paint all Tea Partiers with a broad brush then cite one man who advocates stoning. Classic peanut gallery stuff. Nothing of real substance. Yet, he calls himself a Republican. I think he's confused.

And of course he's mainly capable of only doing a cut and past job.
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:22 PM   #6
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:23 PM   #7
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This guy's comments were taken out of context. If you look at the totality of what he said, then it's clear he's not a hateful homophobe. Just a leftwing smear tactic. /Bigoteyedpea.
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Old 06-11-2014, 03:27 PM   #8
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Only Pitt would use a left-wing tactic to paint all Tea Partiers with a broad brush then cite one man who advocates stoning. Classic peanut gallery stuff. Nothing of real substance. Yet, he calls himself a Republican. I think he's confused.

And of course he's mainly capable of only doing a cut and past job.
The title specifically notes a single tea party candidate; the article discusses this candidate by name. Where, exactly, is the broad brush, other than in your head?
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The title specifically notes a single tea party candidate; the article discusses this candidate by name. Where, exactly, is the broad brush, other than in your head?
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The title specifically notes a single tea party candidate; the article discusses this candidate by name. Where, exactly, is the broad brush, other than in your head?
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I do suspect, however, that Eskís beliefs arenít all that far from the other state-level Republicans in the region, who recently attempted to push through the most extreme piece of anti-gay legislation America has ever witnessed. Perhaps our criticism of Esk, then, is really misguided: Rather than chastising him for his seemingly extremist views, we should be thanking him for saying what so many of his political associates are likely thinking.
The problem with political groups is there is always going to be some asshole(s) who claims to be part of that group who believes stupid shit like this. And there will always be people who associate what that one stupid person believes with what the entire political group believes.

I like a lot of the tea party platform ó limited government, adhere to the constitution, less taxes ... but then you get the crazies who want to take over and add a bunch of other shit that's pretty damned offensive. So I stay the hell away from political groups in general.
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