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Old 06-19-2014, 10:40 PM  
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Examining what kind of president Hillary would be

Interesting article on the kind of president Hillary would be:

A UNIFIED THEORY OF HILLARY
To understand what kind of president she would be, consider that her greatest successes and worst failures have the same explanation.

Highlights:
  • On November 3, 1973, Hillary Clinton, then 26 years old, learned that she had failed the Washington, D.C., bar exam... In their mostly flattering book, HRC, Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes offer a plausible theory: Hillary was "a great student," but she "didn't have the vision to see the trouble some of her peers identified and adjusted for." Does this ancient, obscure episode have any bearing on what kind of president Hillary Clinton would be? It just might.
  • AT BEST, HILLARY CLINTON could be the Lyndon Johnson to Barack Obama's John F. Kennedy: the tough-minded successor who achieves what their more charismatic, but less politically savvy, predecessor could not...Hillary could prove to be a more effective inside-Washington player than any White House Democrat since LBJ.
  • Throughout his presidency, Bill had trouble making decisions, in part because he had trouble telling people things they didn't want to hear. By contrast, Hillary, even as an undergraduate at Wellesley, was "notably direct in almost everything she did," Bernstein writes. She went on to play the same role in his campaigns that George W. Bush played in his father's: She handled problems the candidate could not, or would not. Bernstein quotes a campaign staffer in Arkansas who recalls that she "was the one that laid the law down."
  • If Hillary's primary edge over her husband is her mental toughness, her biggest advantage over Obama is her skill in cultivating political relationships....she nurtures alliances in a way Obama does not.
  • There are many reasons the Clinton health care reform effort failed...Hillary's failure to see that her model, which she had developed in Arkansas, was not working and needed to be altered midstream. Her political failure lay in her inability to see how dramatically the center of gravity in her party was shifting away from her point of view.
  • Part of the problem was the fierce culture of loyalty within her inner circle, which prevented aides from warning her that her strategy was going awry...Hillary's aides "managed to build wall after wall around the first lady."
  • IF HILLARY'S FAILURE to improvise contributed to the demise of health care reform, it also contributed to her greatest foreign policy blunder—her support for the Iraq War—and her subsequent loss to Barack Obama in 2008.
  • in 2003, when blogs like Daily Kos and activist groups like MoveOn.org powered Howard Dean's stunning insurgency... Hillary and her top advisers were remarkably slow to recognize that the ground was shifting underneath their feet, and that the centrist strategy they had laid out at the beginning of her Senate career was now dangerously outdated... it is extraordinary that at a time when the "netroots" were remaking the Democratic Party, Hillary put her fate in the hands of a consultant who not only discounted their influence but loathed them.
  • her "tunnel vision"—in the words of a close friend quoted in Sally Bedell Smith's For Love of Politics—might produce a presidency more stylistically akin to that of George W. Bush.

One of the best analysis pieces I've read to date on Hillary - spot on:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/magaz...llary-20140618

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Old 06-20-2014, 01:45 PM   #16
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Her book's a best seller.
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Old 06-20-2014, 01:53 PM   #17
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Am I the only one who follows the news around this place. Her book is flopping. They advanced her 14 million on it, and it's broadly being panned as a flop (by past Clinton book standards) that isn't LIKELY to break even on that advance.
Based on its first week Bookscan numbers, the commercial reception for Hard Choices has been decidedly underwhelming: in its first week it sold just 85,721 print copies, compared to the 500k+ of Living History (source)
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“Between us, they are nervous at S&S,” the source said. “It’s a bomb, but it will be interesting to see how they spin it.”
The magazine said that some 1 million copies of the book were reportedly shipped when it went on sale June 10.
“The 60K represents a less than 10 percent sell- through based on what they shipped,” the source said. “They will be lucky to sell 150,000 total lifetime.” (Source)
So... it's not a best seller?
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Old 06-20-2014, 05:56 PM   #18
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Am I the only one who follows the news around this place. Her book is flopping. They advanced her 14 million on it, and it's broadly being panned as a flop (by past Clinton book standards) that isn't LIKELY to break even on that advance.
Based on its first week Bookscan numbers, the commercial reception for Hard Choices has been decidedly underwhelming: in its first week it sold just 85,721 print copies, compared to the 500k+ of Living History (source)
First, who gives a shit about this besides obsessed RWNJs?
Second, it is selling better than every other book.

Comparison of print copies to her last book is fairly dumb since that was in 2003 when a lot more people read actual books and it was her first comments about Monica. I really have no idea why anyone is interested in reading these self-serving biographies anyway.

COMBINED PRINT & E-BOOK NONFICTION
1.HARD CHOICES, by Hillary Rodham Clinton
2.ONE NATION, by Ben Carson with Candy Carson
3.ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK, by Piper Kerman
4.I KNOW WHY THE CAGED BIRD SINGS, by Maya Angelou
5.UNBROKEN, by Laura Hillenbrand

HARDCOVER NONFICTION
1.HARD CHOICES, by Hillary Rodham Clinton
2.ONE NATION, by Ben Carson with Candy Carson
3.THE CLOSER, by Mariano Rivera with Wayne Coffey
4.CAPITAL IN THE TWENTY-FIRST CENTURY, by Thomas Piketty
5.UNBROKEN, by Laura Hillenbrand

E-Book Nonfiction
1.HARD CHOICES, by Hillary Rodham Clinton
2.I KNOW WHY THE CAGED BIRD SINGS, by Maya Angelou
3.ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK, by Piper Kerman
4.FROZEN IN TIME, by Mitchell Zuckoff
5.THE NAZI OFFICER'S WIFE, by Edith H. Beer with Susan Dworkin
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Old 06-20-2014, 06:29 PM   #19
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Am I the only one who follows the news around this place. Her book is flopping.
Can you give a brother a chance to catch his breath from laughing at Direck's spin?
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Old 06-20-2014, 06:48 PM   #20
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Old 06-20-2014, 06:58 PM   #21
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Can you give a brother a chance to catch his breath from laughing at Direck's spin?
Dude, they're partying it up at HillaryHQ. They're over the moon at how well this is all going for them. Trust me.
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Old 06-20-2014, 07:22 PM   #22
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Can you give a brother a chance to catch his breath from laughing at Direck's spin?
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Dude, they're partying it up at HillaryHQ. They're over the moon at how well this is all going for them. Trust me.
My point was that you came back 1/2 hr after Direck's bestseller line in a moribund forum and chided us who hadn't even seen it yet for not pouncing on him.

No, you're not the only one following the news, but this afternoon you might have been the only one following this thread.
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My point was that you came back 1/2 hr after Direck's bestseller line in a moribund forum and chided us who hadn't even seen it yet for not pouncing on him.

No, you're not the only one following the news, but this afternoon you might have been the only one following this thread.
Internet miscommunication. The theme of the day for me on this forum was discussion with individuals who were behind by at least a dozen news cycles...
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Her book's a best seller. So, I'd say the rollout has accomplished it's main objective to make her money.

Regardless, as flawed as you've perceived it to be, she has publicly changed her positions on two issues of immense consequence: gay rights and the Iraq war. Again, it's just a book campaign, but it's what we have to work with now.
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Hillary's book has fallen out of the top 10 on Amazon after only 1 week:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/ref=sv_b_2

10-day Green Smoothie Cleanse has staying power, though.
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Hillary's book has fallen out of the top 10 on Amazon after only 1 week:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/ref=sv_b_2

10-day Green Smoothie Cleanse has staying power, though.
Yep

You'll also notice that #12 on Amazon is still #1 hardcover nonfiction.

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You'll also notice that #12 on Amazon is still #1 hardcover nonfiction.
People still buy hard covers?
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