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Old 06-19-2014, 10:40 PM  
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Examining what kind of president Hillary would be

Interesting article on the kind of president Hillary would be:

A UNIFIED THEORY OF HILLARY
To understand what kind of president she would be, consider that her greatest successes and worst failures have the same explanation.

Highlights:
  • On November 3, 1973, Hillary Clinton, then 26 years old, learned that she had failed the Washington, D.C., bar exam... In their mostly flattering book, HRC, Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes offer a plausible theory: Hillary was "a great student," but she "didn't have the vision to see the trouble some of her peers identified and adjusted for." Does this ancient, obscure episode have any bearing on what kind of president Hillary Clinton would be? It just might.
  • AT BEST, HILLARY CLINTON could be the Lyndon Johnson to Barack Obama's John F. Kennedy: the tough-minded successor who achieves what their more charismatic, but less politically savvy, predecessor could not...Hillary could prove to be a more effective inside-Washington player than any White House Democrat since LBJ.
  • Throughout his presidency, Bill had trouble making decisions, in part because he had trouble telling people things they didn't want to hear. By contrast, Hillary, even as an undergraduate at Wellesley, was "notably direct in almost everything she did," Bernstein writes. She went on to play the same role in his campaigns that George W. Bush played in his father's: She handled problems the candidate could not, or would not. Bernstein quotes a campaign staffer in Arkansas who recalls that she "was the one that laid the law down."
  • If Hillary's primary edge over her husband is her mental toughness, her biggest advantage over Obama is her skill in cultivating political relationships....she nurtures alliances in a way Obama does not.
  • There are many reasons the Clinton health care reform effort failed...Hillary's failure to see that her model, which she had developed in Arkansas, was not working and needed to be altered midstream. Her political failure lay in her inability to see how dramatically the center of gravity in her party was shifting away from her point of view.
  • Part of the problem was the fierce culture of loyalty within her inner circle, which prevented aides from warning her that her strategy was going awry...Hillary's aides "managed to build wall after wall around the first lady."
  • IF HILLARY'S FAILURE to improvise contributed to the demise of health care reform, it also contributed to her greatest foreign policy blunder—her support for the Iraq War—and her subsequent loss to Barack Obama in 2008.
  • in 2003, when blogs like Daily Kos and activist groups like MoveOn.org powered Howard Dean's stunning insurgency... Hillary and her top advisers were remarkably slow to recognize that the ground was shifting underneath their feet, and that the centrist strategy they had laid out at the beginning of her Senate career was now dangerously outdated... it is extraordinary that at a time when the "netroots" were remaking the Democratic Party, Hillary put her fate in the hands of a consultant who not only discounted their influence but loathed them.
  • her "tunnel vision"—in the words of a close friend quoted in Sally Bedell Smith's For Love of Politics—might produce a presidency more stylistically akin to that of George W. Bush.

One of the best analysis pieces I've read to date on Hillary - spot on:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/magaz...llary-20140618

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Old 06-22-2014, 10:23 AM   #31
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She can barely manage a book tour.

It would be Obama Part II and she wouldn't have the '90s tech bubble to save her like Bill had.
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:38 AM   #32
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:37 PM   #33
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Hillary is a Methodist. That alone will turn the shit wads like Davelane against her. This is the first thing I see in her side Im willing to go for.
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:50 PM   #34
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Hillary is a Methodist. That alone will turn the shit wads like Davelane against her. This is the first thing I see in her side Im willing to go for.
Hmmmmmm, she may be listed on their roles, but that's about all the Methodist she is.
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Hillary is/always will be a bitch. Bill was at least likeable and good ol boy from Arkansas.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:07 PM   #36
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Hillary is/always will be a bitch. Bill was at least likeable and good ol boy from Arkansas.
Very true, she is a bitch, a C too, and I never blamed him once for stepping out on THAT!!! Not that I think "sex" is anything to get worked-up over, I sure as hell would give ANY man a pass when THAT'S what he's coming home to! And he was a good 'ol boy, that's just a sign of how awesome America is...
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She can barely manage a book tour.

It would be Obama Part II and she wouldn't have the '90s tech bubble to save her like Bill had.
At least we'd have coherent foreign policy, even if I disagreed here and there.
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Hillary is a Methodist. That alone will turn the shit wads like Davelane against her. This is the first thing I see in her side Im willing to go for.
She's a MINO.

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Hmmmmmm, she may be listed on their roles, but that's about all the Methodist she is.
Then retards like HCF will turn against her. Not that he could comprehend these words in anyway.
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Old 06-22-2014, 09:15 PM   #43
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I think she would very much be like Margaret Thatcher, one tough broad.
it will be interesting/amusing to see all the righties around here have their heads explode when hillary gets elected...

she won't get anywhere with the republican house, but a lot of her policies could be implemented by executive action/presidential powers under the constitution...

frankly she's a little too conservative on some issues for me, but i haven't seen a potential repub candidate that i would vote for based on what i now as of now...

that could change as the field develops of course...
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