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Old 06-20-2014, 03:23 PM  
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JOE SCARBOROUGH: DRAFT MITT ROMNEY IN 2016!

JOE SCARBOROUGH: DRAFT MITT ROMNEY IN 2016!

Joe Scarborough, the MSNBC host who has transformed into one of his generation's most preeminent Rockefeller Republicans, believes Mitt Romney should run for president again in 2016.

Speaking to about 300 guests at "a luxury resort in the Rocky Mountains" with other potential GOP presidential hopefuls like Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) and Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), Scarborough reportedly urged the establishment donors and insiders to being a “Draft Romney” movement.

“This is the only person that can fill the stage,” Scarborough said at a summit hosted by Romney, according to a Washington Post report.

Scarborough and other attendees may not have realized that House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) was ousted last week because he was seen as emblematic of an ossifying Republican Party that favored cronyism over free markets. That was why Romney could never appeal to blue-collar American workers and similarly situated minorities in 2012 who dislike the GOP when it is perceived as being in bed with big-business crony capitalists seeking corporate-welfare handouts.

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Old 06-20-2014, 11:00 PM   #46
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Mitt won independents but other than that, great point.
He won them compared to Obama, sure.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:09 PM   #47
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Ah yes. Paul followers cost Romney the election...

No, they didn't. Independents cost Romney the election, and they'll cost the next GOP candidate the next election, too.
A decidedly conservative article with numbers from the election.


Ron Paul is not mentioned however.


http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...arthy/page/0/1
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:11 PM   #48
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He won them compared to Obama, sure.
Which was all he needed if had turned out his base.


If one believes independents will compensate for the base, they deserve to lose. It's called a base for a reason.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:11 PM   #49
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Romney's loss in 2012 caused me to become completely disillusioned and apathetic about Presidential politics. Either the majority of voters are total dumbasses who failed to recognize the potential for greatness in Mitt Romney, or I'm the dumbass who failed to recognize his flaws.

Either way, it just doesn't matter to me any more. I decided to stop caring who the President is. I'd rather spend my time and energy rooting for the Royals and Chiefs. They have a better chance of winning than the candidates I support.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:14 PM   #50
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A decidedly conservative article with numbers from the election.


Ron Paul is not mentioned however.


http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...arthy/page/0/1
All good stuff, RH, but I simply don't buy it. I truly believe that if a further right candidate had been the nominee against Obama in 2012, he/she would have been been even more thoroughly beaten than Romney was.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:14 PM   #51
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Ah yes. Paul followers cost Romney the election...

No, they didn't. Independents cost Romney the election, and they'll cost the next GOP candidate the next election, too.

Ron Paul people poll as "Independents." But aside from that, it's no revelation that Mitt Romney didn't appeal to either libertarians or independents.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:15 PM   #52
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He won them compared to Obama, sure.
Uh.....is that really your rebuttal?
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Ron Paul people poll as "Independents." But aside from that, it's no revelation that Mitt Romney didn't appeal to either libertarians or independents.
He won independents.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:17 PM   #54
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Which was all he needed if had turned out his base.


If one believes independents will compensate for the base, they deserve to lose. It's called a base for a reason.
If the base would rather sit at home instead versus seeing Obama re-elected, they aren't a base at all, IMO. You fight during the primaries and then rally behind what comes out. I realize that this is anathema to some (including Paul followers) but it is what it is.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:18 PM   #55
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Ron Paul people poll as "Independents." But aside from that, it's no revelation that Mitt Romney didn't appeal to either libertarians or independents.
Sure they do. Because they are contrarians. They wouldn't know what to do with actual power.
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Uh.....is that really your rebuttal?
Absolutely. See above.
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He won independents.
That's what I get for taking Donger's analysis at face value...
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:19 PM   #58
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So we are going to keeps seeing AIDS run on the Republican side.


That's a great plan.


What needs to be done for the Libertarians to get a seat at the big table?
Why do they deserve a seat? They're like 1% of the electorate
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That's what I get for taking Donger's analysis at face value...
I could have sworn that Ron Paul ran as a member of the GOP. Did he not?
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They wouldn't know what to do with actual power.
You're right. Their answer would be to give it to the people.
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