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Old 06-25-2014, 04:02 PM  
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House Republicans to Sue Obama

House Republicans to Sue Obama

Alex Rogers

Objections to the Administration's executive actions

The House of Representatives will sue President Barack Obama for not “faithfully executing” the law, Speaker John Boehner said Wednesday, though he declined to say which of Obama’s actions the House will challenge in court.

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“What we’ve seen certainly over the last five years is an effort to erode the power of the legislative branch,” Boehner said. “I believe the President is not faithfully executing the laws of the country and on behalf of the institution and our constitution, standing up and fighting for this is in the best long-term interest of the Congress.”

While Boehner has yet to announce the details of the forthcoming lawsuit, House Republicans have strongly opposed numerous unilateral decisions made by the Obama Administration, including halting deportations of immigrants who were brought to the country as children, postponing provisions of the Affordable Care Act and raising the minimum wage for federal contractors. In a letter to House members Wednesday, Boehner said he intends to bring legislation to the floor in July to “compel” Obama to follow his oath of office

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest didn’t say whether Obama and Boehner had discussed the lawsuit when the Speaker was at the White House Tuesday, and he criticized House Republicans for taking their opposition of the President into “a gear that I didn’t know previously existed.”

“The fact that they are considering a taxpayer funded lawsuit against the President of the United States for doing his job, I think, is the kind of step that most Americans wouldn’t support,” Earnest said. “This lawsuit is certainly not something that is going to consume the attention of the White House.”

Boehner could summon the Bipartisan Legal Advisory Group to decide on whether or not to sue the President on behalf of the House, according to Roll Call, which first reported on the lawsuit. The panel consists of the top three House Republican leaders, including the Speaker, and the top two Democratic leaders. The group acts on a majority vote. Boehner last convened the panel in 2011 when the White House said it would no longer defend the Defense of Marriage Act in court. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday that the Republicans wasted $2.3 million in taxpayer money defending the law.

“I make of it as subterfuge,” Pelosi said of the new House Republican plan to sue Obama. “As I’ve said they are doing nothing here and so they have to give some aura of activity.

“He hasn’t come anywhere near what Republican presidents have done on executive orders,” Pelosi added.

“Not only does the President regularly ignore the law, he brags about it,” Boehner said. “And he brags about his willingness to change it unilaterally. First the Administration makes the wrong decisions. Then it won’t give the American people the straight answers. Instead it’s arrogance and incompetence right down the line. I think Americans deserve better. And the House will continue to listen to the American people and make their priorities our priorities.”

http://time.com/2921512/barack-obama...icans-lawsuit/
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Old 06-25-2014, 04:17 PM   #16
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They certainly are not faithfully executing the immigration laws, and they've created a humanitarian crisis that needs to be stopped.

From the border to his own health care law. I would imagine the actual list to be quite extensive. When that report comes out (surely they've got something in the offing), it's going to be pretty thick.
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Old 06-25-2014, 04:23 PM   #17
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From the border to his own health care law. I would imagine the actual list to be quite extensive. When that report comes out (surely they've got something in the offing), it's going to be pretty thick.
Although I think that selective non-enforcement of the immigration laws is something that probably needs to move into the courts, because you have clear statutory guidelines and they just ignore them. The executive branch has to have some discretion as to how they enforce laws, but that doesn't extend to non-enforcement. But I don't like the precedent here very much.

I can see the Democrats coming back next time there is a Republican president and say that his failing to do this or that - some momentary Congressional wrangling about the budget or somesuch - is denying old people their medicine or forcing families out in the cold, so he's not faithfully executing or promoting the general welfare or whatever.

It just seems like something that we don't want going on. Like the nuclear option or reconciliation, although the Democrats already demonstrated they will decry those and then use them when they see fit.
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Old 06-25-2014, 04:41 PM   #18
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They will wait to impeach until they have control of the senate because a democratic senate will never kick him out of office.
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Old 06-25-2014, 07:20 PM   #19
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Impeach for what?
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:15 PM   #20
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Impeach for what?
"for not 'faithfully executing' the law"
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:51 AM   #23
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:06 PM   #24
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Boehner Lawsuit Against Obama to Focus on Obamacare

House Speaker John Boehner announced Thursday the Republican-led lawsuit against President Barack Obama will focus on the implementation of the Affordable Care Act and the White House decision to delay the employer mandate.

“In 2013, the president changed the health care law without a vote of Congress, effectively creating his own law by literally waiving the employer mandate and the penalties for failing to comply with it. That’s not the way our system of government was designed to work,” Boehner said in a statement.

The House Rules Committee will hold a hearing next week to discuss the legislation that would authorize a lawsuit against the president.

Obama has dismissed the suit as a political stunt, saying he has taken action only because Republicans in Congress have been unwilling to negotiate.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/cong...macare-n153091
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:09 PM   #25
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I think that's an interesting lawsuit. It's a little more limited than I would wish, but it's still an important question being raised here: whether or not the executive branch has carte blanche to cross off congressionally mandated deadlines, and put ones he thinks are more politically or even functionally better.
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:14 PM   #26
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If they have reasons to impeach, they should. Just like if the Dems had a reason to impeach Bush.

The quid pro quo between the parties regarding the check of the Executive branch is why Congress has been effectively neutered.
Exactly! It's more than a party issue at this point. If nothing effective is done, it will just get worse—>a long march to dictatorship.
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:29 PM   #27
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Boehner Lawsuit Against Obama to Focus on Obamacare

House Speaker John Boehner announced Thursday the Republican-led lawsuit against President Barack Obama will focus on the implementation of the Affordable Care Act and the White House decision to delay the employer mandate.

“In 2013, the president changed the health care law without a vote of Congress, effectively creating his own law by literally waiving the employer mandate and the penalties for failing to comply with it. That’s not the way our system of government was designed to work,” Boehner said in a statement.

The House Rules Committee will hold a hearing next week to discuss the legislation that would authorize a lawsuit against the president.

Obama has dismissed the suit as a political stunt, saying he has taken action only because Republicans in Congress have been unwilling to negotiate.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/cong...macare-n153091
I want to read the brief when they file it. I wonder not if it will be in crayon, but if it will be one of the new colors.
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:44 PM   #28
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it won't get to court in the sense of an actual court hearing on the merits...

this has been tried before, iirc, and the supremes have thrown out suits like this on the issue of standing...

there's nothing new on that issue, so it will be dismissed...
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Old 07-10-2014, 08:46 PM   #29
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it won't get to court in the sense of an actual court hearing on the merits...

this has been tried before, iirc, and the supremes have thrown out suits like this on the issue of standing...

there's nothing new on that issue, so it will be dismissed...
I am not questioning you as in I don't believe you, I am questioning out of genuine curiosity: when has it been tried before?
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Old 07-10-2014, 09:02 PM   #30
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Boehner, in a letter to Obama, even admitted that the employer mandate "cannot be implemented within the current time frame." The party has referred to the provision as a "jobs killer" and has sought its repeal.

Stop doing things we approve off or we will sue you...

/The house GOP and their idiot supporters.
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