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Old 06-25-2014, 11:55 PM  
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What a GOP Senate Would Mean for Obamacare

  • "The ultimate goal is to fully repeal Obamacare and replace it with commonsense proposals that solve the cost problem. But recognizing that Obama will be president for the next three years, we will use every lever we can in the meantime to lay the groundwork for its repeal," a senior GOP aide said.

Here's how a Republican-controlled Senate's Obamacare strategy would likely play out:

First, expect a vote on full repeal. Republicans will use any procedural opening they can to get a full-repeal bill to Obama's desk, a Republican health care staffer said. Yes, Obama will veto it, and there will be plenty of eye rolling about how many futile repeal votes congressional Republicans have held. But the Senate has never held one, and any Republican who doesn't want to get primaried will want a chance to vote for repeal before moving on to anything that might look like "fixing" Obamacare.

After that, Republicans have two anti-Obamacare tracks—bills that might pass, and bills they could force Obama to veto.

There's some low-hanging fruit that could gain bipartisan support. If Republicans win the Senate, for example, Obama will almost surely be presented with a bill to repeal the health care law's tax on medical devices. That proposal has passed the House and could easily pass the Senate today, with strong bipartisan support—if it ever came up for a binding vote.

The GOP aide laid out a few more items that might win Democratic support, such as repealing the health insurance tax and stepping up the procedures for recapturing improper subsidies. Even a big-ticket item like repealing the employer mandate could attract red-state Democrats, allowing Republicans to argue that they're pursuing bipartisan reforms, even if most or all of their efforts are ultimately vetoed.

Aides also said Republicans will likely force Obama to veto a bill repealing the individual mandate. There's no way he'd ever sign such a bill, but the GOP sees political value in forcing the issue all the way to his desk.

"It's always better to change the law than to force a veto, but on fundamental differences, vetoes can be useful too," said Dean Clancy, a tea-party-aligned policy analyst.


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Old 06-26-2014, 12:25 AM   #2
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[*]"The ultimate goal is to fully repeal Obamacare and replace it with commonsense proposals that solve the cost problem. But recognizing that Obama will be president for the next three years, we will use every lever we can in the meantime to lay the groundwork for its repeal," a senior GOP aide said.

We don't know what those are, and never proposed any when the subject was being debated, but they probably exist, and we'll pretend to think of some when we need to.
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:51 AM   #3
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stop making fun of gop proposals!

what do you want, specifics?

you can't handle the specifics man!
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:03 AM   #4
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stop making fun of gop proposals!

what do you want, specifics?

you can't handle the specifics man!
Apparently neither can you on the Left. You elected a President not once but twice who still doesn't understand the definition of the word "specific".

In fact, the entire AHCA was voted and approved by a bunch of people that never bothered to understand the "specifics".
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:22 AM   #5
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Apparently neither can you on the Left. You elected a President not once but twice who still doesn't understand the definition of the word "specific".

In fact, the entire AHCA was voted and approved by a bunch of people that never bothered to understand the "specifics".
Then Obama changed them. To things that were never proposed. Or debated.
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:35 AM   #6
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stop making fun of gop proposals!

what do you want, specifics?

you can't handle the specifics man!
Dude, are you feeling ok? did somebody hack your account? too much reefer can cause brain damage you know. some of your posts as of late have been bizarre (starting with the Nixon/Watergate quote).

Cheers to your good state of mind in the future!
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:15 AM   #7
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Wouldn't Republicans need 60 votes to get anything like this through the Senate?

Are they expecting that large of a swing in Nov?
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:47 AM   #8
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Wouldn't Republicans need 60 votes to get anything like this through the Senate?

Are they expecting that large of a swing in Nov?
Harry Reid established new rules. Maybe the new leader will be like Harry a nd make new shit up? The Koch boys will make all the calls anyway.
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