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Old 06-26-2014, 09:24 AM  
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In an effort to “get more people to follow Jesus,” a Joplin, Missouri, church held a raffle giving away two Black Rain AR15 assault rifles.

On Father’s Day June 15, Ignite Church gave away two of the weapons as part of a marketing strategy to bring more young men into the fold, according to the Joplin Globe.

“If we get people in the door, we get to preach the gospel,” said Heath Mooneyham, Ignite’s lead pastor. “If we can get more people to follow Jesus, I’ll give away 1,000 guns. I don’t care.”

The give-away was part of an outreach by Ignite Church to make inroads with the male age 18 to 35 demographic.

“That’s the biggest black hole in our society,” Mooneyham explained.

The church has already made adjustments in an attempt to draw a younger male crowd with Sunday services start later (10 a.m. and 11:30 a.m.), loud rock music, and a tattooed mohawked pastor.

“We’re not trying to put on a show for anybody,” Mooneyham said. “We’re just dudes.

Previously the church has sponsored shooting and hunting outings.

On Father’s Day, men were given the an opportunity to put their names in a hat to win one of two AR-15 rifles. Each father was eligible to submit a ticket for himself and a ticket for each of his children he brought to church with him. An additional ticket was given if a man brought his own dad.

Dan McCain, who owns a local guitar shop and plays lead guitar for the church’s band, was one of the two AR-15 winners.

“I was very happy to win the rifle. I’ve never won anything in my life, so it was exciting,” he said. “I enjoy hunting and target shooting. I haven’t had the opportunity to hunt in a while, but hope to change that this season.”

McCain added, “Firearm ownership does not equate to violence.”

Not everyone in the Joplin Christian community agrees with Ignite’s aggressive marketing methods.

“I think giving away weapons, with all the violence in this country, gives way to new violence,” said Steve Urie, pastor at the Joplin Diversity Fellowship. “I don’t think it’s just nontraditional. I think it’s careless and reckless.”
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:56 AM   #16
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Full Definition of ASSAULT RIFLE


: any of various automatic or semiautomatic rifles with large capacity magazines designed for military use


See assault rifle defined for English-language learners »


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First Known Use of ASSAULT RIFLE

1972


Other Weapons and Explosives Terms

automatic, carbine, cudgel, muzzle, rapier

assault rifle noun (Concise Encyclopedia)




Military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire. Light and portable, yet able to deliver a high volume of fire with reasonable accuracy at modern combat ranges of 1,000–1,600 ft (300–500 m), assault rifles have become the standard infantry weapon of modern armies. Their ease of handling makes them ideal for mobile assault troops crowded into personnel carriers or helicopters, as well as for guerrilla fighters engaged in jungle or urban warfare. Widely used assault rifles are the U.S. M16, the Soviet Kalashnikov (the AK-47 and modernized versions), the Belgian FAL and FNC, and the German G3.
IIRC, the M4 doesn't have the option of fully automatic (semi-auto and three round burst, which I guess is technically fully auto?). Does that mean it isn't a assault rifle?
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:15 AM   #17
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IIRC, the M4 doesn't have the option of fully automatic (semi-auto and three round burst, which I guess is technically fully auto?). Does that mean it isn't a assault rifle?
I could be mistaken but I am pretty certain the M4 can shoot fully Automatic as well.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:21 AM   #18
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I could be mistaken but I am pretty certain the M4 can shoot fully Automatic as well.
Going from memory, the M4A1 can but the M4 can't.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:26 AM   #19
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This thread is supposed to be about making fun of that church and religion in general. Thanks.
But you guys do that all the time. It's and old schtick. Perhaps you should have gun giveaways to get people on your side!
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:28 AM   #20
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I got out before the M4 designation began, the newer M16A2's we were issued had safe/semi/3 rd burst.
The older ones had safe/semi/auto, there were some in the armory that had all 4 settings, safe/semi/burst/auto.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:32 AM   #21
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But you guys do that all the time. It's and old schtick. Perhaps you should have gun giveaways to get people on your side!
A gun giveaway for NOT going to church? Interesting idea.

The lucky winners will be phoned at 10AM Sunday. You must answer to win. If you don't answer, we'll assume you're at church.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:33 AM   #22
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Going from memory, the M4A1 can but the M4 can't.
Just checked and I think you are right. So while I wouldn't classify a weapon that can only fire a 3 round burst as an assault weapon I don't know how many rounds a single pull of the trigger it takes to classify something as an assault weapon. Certainly more than one.

Without special licensing and living in Locals that permit it, a person can't own a weapon that fires a 3 round bursts.
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A gun giveaway for NOT going to church? Interesting idea.

The lucky winners will be phoned at 10AM Sunday. You must answer to win. If you don't answer, we'll assume you're at church.
Easily solved by holding the drawing at the service and you have to be present to win. Don't try to make things complicated.
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Easily solved by holding the drawing at the service and you have to be present to win. Don't try to make things complicated.
I don't think you are understanding...
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Your right I missed the "not".
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I bring up points for discussion that I find interesting. I like to see what people think about certain news stories.

Nobody asked me any questions, so what's the big deal?

Also, in terms of some of the responses, I realize its not worth the time arguing with cognitive dissonance, so I don't waste my time with that.
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