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Old 06-26-2014, 08:16 PM  
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The real reason Democrats push global warming. Campaign money

Environmentalist and Democrat mega-donor accused of hypocrisy

With his increasing visibility and political involvement, San Francisco environmentalist and mega-Democratic campaign donor Tom Steyer is making Democrats a rich target for hypocrisy, critics say.

Steyer has pledged $100 million this year to elect Democrats who are committed to fighting global warming and the Keystone XL pipeline.

He was in Washington Wednesday for private meetings at the White House and to promote his "Risky Business" project, which attempts to get American business to adapt to climate change.

In a previous meeting Tuesday in New York, Steyer told reporters, "We need to reward people whose behavior reduces climate risk and penalize people who add to it."

By that measure, Steyer himself might well be due for punishment. Critics say Steyer made his fortune, in part, from fossil fuels - the very energy source he now condemns - while he was a hedge fund manager at Farallon Capital Management, a firm he founded.

"This is somebody who really made his fortune largely investing in fossil fuels who now wants to close off the ability to use fossil fuels to a lot of other people who aren't as wealthy," said Phil Kerpen, president of the conservative political action committee American Commitment.

Earlier this month, The Washington Post reported, "Steyer said in 2012 that he was halting his 'ecologically unsound' investments, a review of his ties to the $20 billion hedge fund he led for two decades shows that he is only now becoming fully divested from energy firms linked to climate change."

Kerpen has produced online ads that attack Steyer and the Democratic candidates he is supporting in the upcoming midterm elections. One ad commences with a narrator's voice saying, "Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid is on the attack..." It then cuts to a sound bite of Reid on the Senate floor saying, "What is un-American is when shadowy billionaires pour unlimited money into our democracy to rig the system..."

It is a not so subtle jab at Reid's repeated references to the Koch Brothers - the Kansas libertarian billionaires who contribute mightily to conservative causes and candidates and who are regularly demonized by Reid and other Democrats.

Asked at Tuesday's press briefing whether he had any misgivings about Steyer's visit to the White House, given the prohibition against political activities there, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said, "I have no misgivings about the individuals who are participating in that meeting. Their political activities notwithstanding, the administration is committed to making progress in addressing the causes of climate change and reducing carbon pollution."

In April of 2013, President Obama, and Congressional Democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi and Reid attended a fundraiser at Steyer's Bay area mansion. Kerpen said that shortly after that fundraiser, the entire Democratic party's messaging began to change.

"I think that's where the hardball really started," he said. "Because we saw a couple weeks after that the Democrats took to the Senate floor and spoke all night about climate change and Tom Steyer applauded them for that."

Some Democrats, especially those in tough re-election battles in energy rich states, are said to be fuming over the Steyer White House visit. One of them told the Washington Examiner, "If a Republican president did the same thing with the Koch brothers, we would skewer them."


Doug McKelway joined Fox News Channel (FNC) in November 2010 and serves as a Washington-based correspondent. Click here for more information on Doug McKelway.

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Old 06-27-2014, 08:29 PM   #16
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Good. So it seems we all agree the next time Obama, pelosi, or Reid bring up global warming it sn't because its really happening, its because their campaign account dings a little bell. We're getting somewhere.
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Old 06-27-2014, 08:33 PM   #17
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Climate change adds lots of change to demo campaign coffers. Other than that its a growth industry and pure fabricated speculation and bullshit .
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:17 PM   #18
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Climate change adds lots of change to demo campaign coffers. Other than that its a growth industry and pure fabricated speculation and bullshit .
Add a flying, gay, transvestite cow to the next epic "inconvenient documentary" they'll produce, and you've nailed it...
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Old 06-28-2014, 12:26 AM   #19
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Good. So it seems we all agree the next time Obama, pelosi, or Reid the RWNJs bring up deny global warming it sn't because its not really happening, its because their campaign account dings a little bell. We're getting somewhere.
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Unsupported Climate change denial adds lots of change to demo Repub campaign coffers. Other than that its a growth industry and pure fabricated speculation and bullshit .
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Old 06-28-2014, 06:21 AM   #20
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At least Cosmo sees how the game is played. Neither side is all that serious about any big lesgislation on climate change. Not until they drain the milk from this cash cow, anyway. They know this a topic the other side is passionate about defending. Once our overlords sense that, the dollar signs from lobbyists dominate their motives.

This is the same story on a whole host of social issues that don't really mean squat, but get the base for each party riled up. Monetary policy, fiscal policy, or foreign policy? Yawn. The electorate can't be bothered by that, even though those issues are the ones that affect them the most.
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Old 06-28-2014, 07:14 AM   #21
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Climate changers are the reason they lack credibility. Every time they bring out new data it is proven inaccurate or worse a misrepresentation.
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Old 06-28-2014, 10:53 AM   #22
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Manmade global warming is happening. Period.
Why should I care?
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Old 06-28-2014, 11:02 AM   #23
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Climate the **** is gonna make us all die!!!
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Old 06-28-2014, 11:36 AM   #24
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Manmade global warming is happening.
Bull ****ing shit!

And nothing you can say that will convince me otherwise.

Is Climate Change happening? Sure.

What were humans doing to cause the Ice Age?
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Old 06-28-2014, 12:26 PM   #25
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Bull ****ing shit!

And nothing you can say that will convince me otherwise.

Is Climate Change happening? Sure.

What were humans doing to cause the Ice Age?
Leaving the fridge open
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The real reason Democrats push global warming. Campaign money
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If you want campaign money on the issue of global warming, you deny it. Oil companies shit out millions in campaign contributions, compared to the much smaller amounts by environmental groups -- is there any question, there?

Manmade global warming is happening. Period. The Democratic Party (AND the Republican Party) should push that message.
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Good. So it seems we all agree the next time Obama, pelosi, or Reid bring up global warming it sn't because its really happening, its because their campaign account dings a little bell. We're getting somewhere.
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Old 06-28-2014, 01:30 PM   #27
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Demon big oil. Koch brothers. The bastards. Envior wack job groups. Bill Steyr. Greenpeace, WWF, loons. All good. Read Salon!! Polar Bears.
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Old 06-28-2014, 02:49 PM   #28
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I dont usually get into politics and the left vs the right bullshit...Its just ****ing stupid.

But my goodness, man made climate change is happening. The ****ing evidence is overwhelming.

Climate change doesn't give a **** about politics or greed. It's going to happen no matter what.

So the right can keep on denying it, and say that nothing will change their minds....doesn't mean it's not happening.
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Old 06-28-2014, 02:54 PM   #29
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I dont usually get into politics and the left vs the right bullshit...Its just ****ing stupid.

But my goodness, man made climate change is happening. The ****ing evidence is overwhelming.

Climate change doesn't give a **** about politics or greed. It's going to happen no matter what.

So the right can keep on denying it, and say that nothing will change their minds....doesn't mean it's not happening.
Well write to Al Gore and tell him to reduce his carbon footprint then.
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Old 06-28-2014, 03:43 PM   #30
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I dont usually get into politics and the left vs the right bullshit...Its just ****ing stupid.

But my goodness, man made climate change is happening. The ****ing evidence is overwhelming.

Climate change doesn't give a **** about politics or greed. It's going to happen no matter what.

So the right can keep on denying it, and say that nothing will change their minds....doesn't mean it's not happening.
Please. Don't tell us the evidence is overwhelming as if you have an independent understanding of it. You're just repeating what you've heard and what you've come to believe just like those who don't believe it. That's true of everyone here including the scientists and engineers among us.
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