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Old 06-26-2014, 08:16 PM  
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The real reason Democrats push global warming. Campaign money

Environmentalist and Democrat mega-donor accused of hypocrisy

With his increasing visibility and political involvement, San Francisco environmentalist and mega-Democratic campaign donor Tom Steyer is making Democrats a rich target for hypocrisy, critics say.

Steyer has pledged $100 million this year to elect Democrats who are committed to fighting global warming and the Keystone XL pipeline.

He was in Washington Wednesday for private meetings at the White House and to promote his "Risky Business" project, which attempts to get American business to adapt to climate change.

In a previous meeting Tuesday in New York, Steyer told reporters, "We need to reward people whose behavior reduces climate risk and penalize people who add to it."

By that measure, Steyer himself might well be due for punishment. Critics say Steyer made his fortune, in part, from fossil fuels - the very energy source he now condemns - while he was a hedge fund manager at Farallon Capital Management, a firm he founded.

"This is somebody who really made his fortune largely investing in fossil fuels who now wants to close off the ability to use fossil fuels to a lot of other people who aren't as wealthy," said Phil Kerpen, president of the conservative political action committee American Commitment.

Earlier this month, The Washington Post reported, "Steyer said in 2012 that he was halting his 'ecologically unsound' investments, a review of his ties to the $20 billion hedge fund he led for two decades shows that he is only now becoming fully divested from energy firms linked to climate change."

Kerpen has produced online ads that attack Steyer and the Democratic candidates he is supporting in the upcoming midterm elections. One ad commences with a narrator's voice saying, "Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid is on the attack..." It then cuts to a sound bite of Reid on the Senate floor saying, "What is un-American is when shadowy billionaires pour unlimited money into our democracy to rig the system..."

It is a not so subtle jab at Reid's repeated references to the Koch Brothers - the Kansas libertarian billionaires who contribute mightily to conservative causes and candidates and who are regularly demonized by Reid and other Democrats.

Asked at Tuesday's press briefing whether he had any misgivings about Steyer's visit to the White House, given the prohibition against political activities there, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said, "I have no misgivings about the individuals who are participating in that meeting. Their political activities notwithstanding, the administration is committed to making progress in addressing the causes of climate change and reducing carbon pollution."

In April of 2013, President Obama, and Congressional Democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi and Reid attended a fundraiser at Steyer's Bay area mansion. Kerpen said that shortly after that fundraiser, the entire Democratic party's messaging began to change.

"I think that's where the hardball really started," he said. "Because we saw a couple weeks after that the Democrats took to the Senate floor and spoke all night about climate change and Tom Steyer applauded them for that."

Some Democrats, especially those in tough re-election battles in energy rich states, are said to be fuming over the Steyer White House visit. One of them told the Washington Examiner, "If a Republican president did the same thing with the Koch brothers, we would skewer them."


Doug McKelway joined Fox News Channel (FNC) in November 2010 and serves as a Washington-based correspondent. Click here for more information on Doug McKelway.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...y-accusations/
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Old 07-01-2014, 08:10 AM   #76
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Why is the hole only over Antarctica?

Why not over North America?
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Old 07-01-2014, 08:25 AM   #77
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Why is the hole only over Antarctica?

Why not over North America?
It is complicated. It has to due with the radicals being formed when the lower atmosphere is cold. That takes place at the poles most significantly. You supposedly can see some increase in Ozone depletion in the Tibetan mountains. But the winds, Antarctica especially, isolate that part of the atmosphere so the effect is readily detected before being diffused across the rest of the atmosphere. There is a real reduction over N. America but the concentrated production of this reduction is at the poles. Therefore holes there.
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Old 07-01-2014, 08:41 AM   #78
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I'm an environmental engineer, but I focus mostly on water quality, biofuels processing, and some really weird areas of biology. I don't consider myself to be a climate engineer or claim to be a climate expert. I have not published in this area, and I've only submitted one grant related to an interdisciplinary graduate student education and training program related to climate change (my role was as an administrative leader) which was not funded.

I don't consider myself to be an expert on climate, but I don't rely blindly on what the experts say. I've dug into many of the claims of the deniers, and find most of them at best naive and at worst deliberately misleading.
So like I said, full of shit.
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Old 07-01-2014, 09:00 AM   #79
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I'm an environmental engineer, but I focus mostly on water quality, biofuels processing, and some really weird areas of biology. I don't consider myself to be a climate engineer or claim to be a climate expert. I have not published in this area, and I've only submitted one grant related to an interdisciplinary graduate student education and training program related to climate change (my role was as an administrative leader) which was not funded.

I don't consider myself to be an expert on climate, but I don't rely blindly on what the experts say. I've dug into many of the claims of the deniers, and find most of them at best naive and at worst deliberately misleading.
Ah, environmental engineer, not climate engineer. I didn't grasp the nuance. Mea culpa. It still puts you light years ahead of the rest of us, though.
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Old 07-01-2014, 11:24 AM   #80
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No, but it shows that natural processes that resulted in global cooling are not easily linked to the current rate of climate change.

The evidence that humans are causing the current climate change is that we are having large impacts on the composition of the atmosphere, and the composition of the atmosphere is known to affect climate. For example, major volcanic eruptions have been proven to change the climate over the following couple of years. Given our impacts on the composition of the atmosphere, it would be shocking if no changes in climate occurred as a result.
Serious question. Since the main issue seems to be CO2, why have we abandoned the previous rally cry about the deforestation of the Amazon? Trees/vegetation are incredible carbon sequestration units. Surely this should be an issue. Also, I recently read an article about how fungi were many times better at carbon sequestering than previously thought, enough that they could impact the projections. Can you tell us more about any of this please?
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Old 07-01-2014, 12:13 PM   #81
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Ah, environmental engineer, not climate engineer. I didn't grasp the nuance. Mea culpa. It still puts you light years ahead of the rest of us, though.
Cd is a brilliant dude. We all know this.

However, that knowledge doesn't help much if you don't know the Earth's weather patterns from 10,000 years ago.

How do we know the polar ice didn't melt away 100,000 years ago? We have no basis of comparison.
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Old 07-01-2014, 06:17 PM   #82
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Cd is a brilliant dude. We all know this.

However, that knowledge doesn't help much if you don't know the Earth's weather patterns from 10,000 years ago.

How do we know the polar ice didn't melt away 100,000 years ago? We have no basis of comparison.
What makes you think that? We have a good handle on climate before recorded history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleothermometer
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Didn't read, but searched for "climate". Nary a mention.
So, you found nothing?
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Attempting to kill our cheap clean coal energy is nothing more than democrats looking for campaign money. Nothing more, and a definite war on middle income taxpayers.
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Attempting to kill our cheap clean coal energy is nothing more than democrats looking for campaign money. Nothing more, and a definite war on middle income taxpayers.
aren't the likely casualties of this kentucky and w. va and other "dirty" coal producers?

wyoming coal is much "cleaner"...
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The story linked was:

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I'm not going to search a whole website and debunk every half-baked idea.
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aren't the likely casualties of this kentucky and w. va and other "dirty" coal producers?

wyoming coal is much "cleaner"...
Buffalo Dung is lower in sulphur, but is also appreciably lower in energy density. So you have to burn 25% more of it to get the same production of power.

OTOH, its reserves in the Powder River Basin are nearly limitless. It's a cheap energy source we have complete independence in.
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Buffalo Dung is lower in sulphur, but is also appreciably lower in energy density. So you have to burn 25% more of it to get the same production of power.

OTOH, its reserves in the Powder River Basin are nearly limitless. It's a cheap energy source we have complete independence in.
great, we need more good jobs like dung gatherer...
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aren't the likely casualties of this kentucky and w. va and other "dirty" coal producers?

wyoming coal is much "cleaner"...
The casualty is the consumer in higher prices and fewer jobs. Good job Obama and other campaign financiers.
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