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Old 06-27-2014, 11:33 AM  
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75% of conservatives say the poor "have it easy."

This is somewhere in league with conservatives thinking video games are more dangerous than guns.

Divorced from reality.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-have-it-easy/

More than three quarters of conservatives say the poor “have it easy”
By Christopher Ingraham
June 26



So much for compassionate conservatism.

The Pew Research Center is out with part two of its huge survey of American politics. The first part, released a couple weeks ago, focused on political polarization. For this round, Pew's researchers have created a political typology which "sorts voters into cohesive groups based on their attitudes and values." There's plenty to say about this - and you can see where you fall in Pew's typology quiz here! - but for now I want to focus on the chart above, particularly the left half.

More than three quarters of conservative Americans - those in the steadfast conservative, business conservative, and young outsider typology groups - agree that "poor people have it easy because they can get government benefits without doing anything." Only seven percent of steadfast conservatives say that the poor "have hard lives."

Even a not-insignificant share of left-leaning groups say that the poor have it easy. But overall the widespread agreements among conservatives on this point is what's really striking here. There are reasonable, well-intentioned arguments on either side of many poverty-related issues - about the causes of poverty (see the right half of the chart), or whether government benefits provide a leg up or simply perpetuate poverty, for instance.

But I have a hard time understanding how you could read about the experience of families relying on food stamps to eat, or those trying to manage chronic conditions with Medicaid, and conclude that these people somehow have it easy. For context, here is a brief and wildly incomplete list of the ways life is "easy" when you're poor:The notion that poor people have it easy is at odds with the data.
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:19 PM   #16
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The cartoon posted was dumb anyway, since Jesus was feeding a crowd that gathered to see him. Not walking through town feeding the poor.
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:33 PM   #17
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The only thing that the OP demonstrates is that extremes on both sides are equally as stupid.
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:50 PM   #18
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Poor in america is the 1%ers in most countries.
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:55 PM   #19
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Poor in america is the 1%ers in most countries.
Keep telling yourself that.

The truth is that anyone who makes over 30 grand a year is in the top 1% globally.

I think the poverty level for an individual is like 11 grand a year in the states... so no... the poor in the US are not in the 1% globally.

It's amazing to me how detached people seem to be. We don't even talk about the impoverished as if they're people anymore.

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Old 06-27-2014, 12:57 PM   #20
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The only thing that the OP demonstrates is that extremes on both sides are equally as stupid.
Yeah, pretty much.

I wouldn't say stupid... I'd say detached from the situation. People, especially in the age of the internet, live in bubbles.
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Old 06-27-2014, 01:00 PM   #21
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Easy is a subjective term and therefore not objective.

Reqardless, as long as the population can mate uncontrolled the number of have nots will conitue to increase to the point of revolution.
Pro Eugenics propaganda.

This isn't a population issue. Right now the birth rate isn't even replenishing as fast as people are dying in America.
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Old 06-27-2014, 01:03 PM   #22
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When we consider that a great many people in our country who are considered poor have Iphones, Xbox's, Cable tv and enough assistance from the government to not miss a meal, then yes, they do have it easy.

This is poor in the rest of the world:







I'm sure they'd gladly trade places with our poor.
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Old 06-27-2014, 01:06 PM   #23
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Amusing.

Because American poor have it better than, say, the Ugandan poor, they should stop bitching.

But the American rich, which are far and above wealthier than in any other country on earth, should be protected at all costs from having their taxes raised.

One of these groups needs unequivocal protection from even the smallest of slights. The other should shut up.

The jjjayb way.
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Old 06-27-2014, 01:06 PM   #24
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When we consider that a great many people in our country who are considered poor have Iphones, Xbox's, Cable tv and enough assistance from the government to not miss a meal, then yes, they do have it easy.

This is poor in the rest of the world:







I'm sure they'd gladly trade places with our poor.
Let's keep it relative to the United States.

I think we can all agree that you're privileged if you shit in clean water.

There is no reason to use 3rd world countries as a way to lower our own standards, unless it is some kind of aspiration.
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Old 06-27-2014, 01:07 PM   #25
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Amusing.

Because American poor have it better than, say, the Ugandan poor, they should stop bitching.

But the American rich, which are far and above wealthier than in any other country on earth, should be protected at all costs from having their taxes raised.

One of these groups needs unequivocal protection from even the smallest of slights. The other should shut up.

The jjjayb way.
No, they're not. Absurdly rich people actually live in other countries too, and china is about to leap frog us as the dominant world economy.

It's not relevant either way. We're talking about The United States.
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Old 06-27-2014, 01:08 PM   #26
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No, they're not. Absurdly rich people actually live in other countries too.
America is the wealthiest nation on earth, with the largest collection of the super rich.
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Old 06-27-2014, 01:29 PM   #27
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A lot of the stupid ****s know how to suck off the tit of the government and do nothing to better themselves.
Meanwhile in reality, the vast majority of the social safety net go to working, retired, or disabled households, not people refusing to work.
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Old 06-27-2014, 01:32 PM   #28
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Simply amazing that you managed to show the vastness of you dumbassery in a single post. Where do we begin? That the poll is misleading? That charity is not frowned upon by Christians but mandated welfare is? That Jesus actually stated that "let he that does not work not eat?" That despite the opinions of the libtards, yes, it IS your own ass fault for the hole you are in.

Should we keep going? I can't wait to see you add to your willful advertisement of ignorance in response.
Let's keep going.

Want to talk about where the bible asks you to pay taxes and support your government? Want to talk about where the bible says government are tools of god?

Or do you want to talk about how Jesus DID NOT say that quote you posted. But that is was Paul?

/thanks for displaying your ignorance. Do you confuse Paul with Jesus often?
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Old 06-27-2014, 01:34 PM   #29
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The cartoon posted was dumb anyway, since Jesus was feeding a crowd that gathered to see him. Not walking through town feeding the poor.
Jesus never fed the poor. Or asked people to do it.

/people who haven't read the bible
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Keep telling yourself that.

The truth is that anyone who makes over 30 grand a year is in the top 1% globally.

I think the poverty level for an individual is like 11 grand a year in the states... so no... the poor in the US are not in the 1% globally.

It's amazing to me how detached people seem to be. We don't even talk about the impoverished as if they're people anymore.
Other places have it worse, so Let's not talk about or try to help those in our country.
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