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Old 06-27-2014, 10:33 AM  
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75% of conservatives say the poor "have it easy."

This is somewhere in league with conservatives thinking video games are more dangerous than guns.

Divorced from reality.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-have-it-easy/

More than three quarters of conservatives say the poor “have it easy”
By Christopher Ingraham
June 26



So much for compassionate conservatism.

The Pew Research Center is out with part two of its huge survey of American politics. The first part, released a couple weeks ago, focused on political polarization. For this round, Pew's researchers have created a political typology which "sorts voters into cohesive groups based on their attitudes and values." There's plenty to say about this - and you can see where you fall in Pew's typology quiz here! - but for now I want to focus on the chart above, particularly the left half.

More than three quarters of conservative Americans - those in the steadfast conservative, business conservative, and young outsider typology groups - agree that "poor people have it easy because they can get government benefits without doing anything." Only seven percent of steadfast conservatives say that the poor "have hard lives."

Even a not-insignificant share of left-leaning groups say that the poor have it easy. But overall the widespread agreements among conservatives on this point is what's really striking here. There are reasonable, well-intentioned arguments on either side of many poverty-related issues - about the causes of poverty (see the right half of the chart), or whether government benefits provide a leg up or simply perpetuate poverty, for instance.

But I have a hard time understanding how you could read about the experience of families relying on food stamps to eat, or those trying to manage chronic conditions with Medicaid, and conclude that these people somehow have it easy. For context, here is a brief and wildly incomplete list of the ways life is "easy" when you're poor:The notion that poor people have it easy is at odds with the data.
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Old 06-28-2014, 03:03 PM   #61
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Pro Eugenics propaganda.

This isn't a population issue. Right now the birth rate isn't even replenishing as fast as people are dying in America.
You say "Eugenics" like it's a bad thing...
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Old 06-28-2014, 03:11 PM   #62
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Keep telling yourself that.

The truth is that anyone who makes over 30 grand a year is in the top 1% globally.

I think the poverty level for an individual is like 11 grand a year in the states... so no... the poor in the US are not in the 1% globally.

It's amazing to me how detached people seem to be. We don't even talk about the impoverished as if they're people anymore.
Maybe if you suck at being poor. Honest people trying to get out of poverty have it the worst. Hell your description maybe correct for them. But most of them get way more and leech the system. I know, I have a lot of those worthless ****s in family.

You are forgetting free/discounted phones. Free/almost free housing/electric/water. Tax credits for multiple kids. Welfare money and food stamps. Hardly any medical bills. Don't pay car insurance. A smart welfare scammed gets almost 50k or more in money and benefits.
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Old 06-28-2014, 03:39 PM   #63
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Old 06-28-2014, 04:34 PM   #64
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You might be thinking of a different parable because your posts aren't making sense to me. I'm referring to the leper at Bethesda:
http://biblehub.com/john/5-6.htm
Oh, ok. We're talking about difference incidents. That man was called an invalid, not a leper.
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Old 06-28-2014, 07:34 PM   #65
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Oh, ok. We're talking about difference incidents. That man was called an invalid, not a leper.
Fair enough, this man in my story was an invalid. The pool at Bethesda was used by all types of sufferers including lepers, the blind, the possessed, etc.

At any rate, the point here is that Jesus didn't just heal him - he asked him why he needed others' help getting into the pool, and he got a sob story in return. After Jesus heals him we're told he said to the man to "Stop sinning". We can only presume his refusal to try helping himself and demanding pity for 38 years was in fact a sin.
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Old 06-28-2014, 07:40 PM   #66
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Old 06-28-2014, 09:59 PM   #67
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Between that reality of human nature and the comparison to what "being poor" means in almost every other part of the world, I don't see how anyone who chooses the "have it easy" option can be criticized. Particularly since the only other option is a call for even bigger government than we already have.
the reality is that the vast majority of poor people can aspire all you want them to, but there are no jobs for them...

is part of the reality of human nature that people tend to get discouraged and give up when there is no chance of improving their situation, despite their good character and admirable intentions?

is part of our commitment for the greater good (promote the general welfare ring any bells?) to use the standards of backwards underdeveloped countries as a measuring stick for our own people's general welfare?

from your pov, no-one can be criticized, that's right...

but unfortunately your pov hasn't prevailed, yet...
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Old 06-28-2014, 10:12 PM   #68
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It appears from the article that people who work enjoy a better standard of living and healthier outcomes than those who do not work. I am positively blown away by this discovery.
you know, I bet you are blown away every morning when the sun comes up...
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Old 06-29-2014, 07:30 AM   #69
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Posting about the poor on message boards and saying that the wealthy need to pay more taxes to help them makes you more compassionate than those evil conservatives.
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Old 06-29-2014, 08:17 AM   #71
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Direckshun - how many hours a week would you say you spend volunteering for the poor? Say at a homeless shelter, or maybe tuturing children in low income families?

Just a rough estimate is fine.
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Direckshun - how many hours a week would you say you spend volunteering for the poor? Say at a homeless shelter, or maybe tuturing children in low income families?

Just a rough estimate is fine.
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Direckshun - how many hours a week would you say you spend volunteering for the poor? Say at a homeless shelter, or maybe tuturing children in low income families?

Just a rough estimate is fine.
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I was going to bring up Jesus' comment to the leper who was begging. Jesus asked "do you WANT to get well?"


It's funny when those who hate Jesus the most and know the least about his religion break him out whenever they can. It's great theater
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Late to this thread also

BO wants 2 Billion to help to feed, house, clothe the open borders ?

WTF why not get rid of the EPA and IRS to pay for his view of how America should change, along with cutting all fed employees wages to include congress and white house staff.
While they live it up eating and partying at big GOV meetings, the Vets are pushed to the side and die and have to wait 3 months for a primary apt.

Force the God dam law that is currently on the books, and shut down the borders.
2 more years ? BO needs to step down he has failed the American people and clearly the worst president that ever took the oath of office.
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