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Old 06-27-2014, 10:33 AM  
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75% of conservatives say the poor "have it easy."

This is somewhere in league with conservatives thinking video games are more dangerous than guns.

Divorced from reality.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-have-it-easy/

More than three quarters of conservatives say the poor “have it easy”
By Christopher Ingraham
June 26



So much for compassionate conservatism.

The Pew Research Center is out with part two of its huge survey of American politics. The first part, released a couple weeks ago, focused on political polarization. For this round, Pew's researchers have created a political typology which "sorts voters into cohesive groups based on their attitudes and values." There's plenty to say about this - and you can see where you fall in Pew's typology quiz here! - but for now I want to focus on the chart above, particularly the left half.

More than three quarters of conservative Americans - those in the steadfast conservative, business conservative, and young outsider typology groups - agree that "poor people have it easy because they can get government benefits without doing anything." Only seven percent of steadfast conservatives say that the poor "have hard lives."

Even a not-insignificant share of left-leaning groups say that the poor have it easy. But overall the widespread agreements among conservatives on this point is what's really striking here. There are reasonable, well-intentioned arguments on either side of many poverty-related issues - about the causes of poverty (see the right half of the chart), or whether government benefits provide a leg up or simply perpetuate poverty, for instance.

But I have a hard time understanding how you could read about the experience of families relying on food stamps to eat, or those trying to manage chronic conditions with Medicaid, and conclude that these people somehow have it easy. For context, here is a brief and wildly incomplete list of the ways life is "easy" when you're poor:The notion that poor people have it easy is at odds with the data.
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Old 06-29-2014, 11:50 AM   #76
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Let's keep going.

Want to talk about where the bible asks you to pay taxes and support your government? Want to talk about where the bible says government are tools of god?

Or do you want to talk about how Jesus DID NOT say that quote you posted. But that is was Paul?

/thanks for displaying your ignorance. Do you confuse Paul with Jesus often?
Here we go again.

1/2 to 2/3 if not more of people in this country on welfare are 'sluggards'. Jesus say's the poor will always be with you. The 'truly poor' that is. Do you really think Jesus(who IS GOD btw) supports 'sluggards/deadbeats'(a la chosen LAZINESS) which IS SIN btw. Do a word study in the Scriptures on 'sluggard'(Proverbs especially) and then try to justify not only those 'sluggards' but also a govt that makes it much more easier to stay home thus enabling the sluggard to be entitled(won't seek a job UNLESS it pays well and it practically is given to them on their terms/hours they work-NOT REALISTIC),lazy,pointing the finger at the rich for their so- called condition of poverty justifying in their own 'entitled minds' they are so-called true victims(embracing and playing the Marx class warfare propaganda card-most not knowingly) thus never establishing any kind of self sufficiency thus ultimately deny themselves any chance at self-respect or dignity which has now gone on for many generations in these so-called poor families. "Learned Helplessness" is what our govt(Dems and GOP RINOs) continue to do enabling not only the 'generational sluggards/deadbeats' to go on but now directly tempting those who never have been on the 'govt tit' to go on it until the economy gets better while they(Dems and GOP RINOs) destroy any kind of 'real recovery' to our free capital market(e.g. pro-amnesty(more deadbeats to support), anti-coal,anti-Keystone,etc..) so that prosperous jobs for all can be attained. How insane is that ?

Yes Jesus did say we must support our govt with taxes but I assure you Jesus does not endorse 'stealing' either, whether it be the govt, free market corporate greed monger or a deadbeat living off our taxes when he/she could be working. Which now begs the task of defining what 'truly poor' means. We are not talking about 'judging' the 'truly poor' Lone. We are talking about 'judging sin' and 'sluggardness' is SIN.

Again Lone, there was a reason why Jesus asked the blind beggar in Luke 18:35-43, "What can I do for you"? Jesus knowing full well he was blind prior to addressing him. Why would Jesus ask such a question knowing what the obvious answer would be ? All of Jesus's healing of the blind were not just intended to heal the physical ailment only, but more so to show the spiritual blindness of man and how Jesus is the true light of the world who IS THE SON OF GOD by performing these miracles so that man whether physically blind or not will be able to 'truly see spiritual truth' in HIM. But HE will not force himself upon us(will not remove us from our lot in life if we don't want it-our freewill ) and why he asked the blind man, "what can I do for you" ? Meaning, Jesus knew he was getting indirect and direct benefits from his blindness and begging. Now, because the beggar was granted the miracle of his sight not only will he praise Jesus to the masses of unbelievers around him but he now 'knows' he has no excuse to beg anymore because he can actually fend for himself which was much more difficult for blind people to do back then than it is today. There are many successful blind people today in our society who don't live off the govt.

How many 'sluggards' have their physical sight and still beg by living off the govt Lone ?

BTW, whether Jesus(God himself) or the apostle Paul, all scripture(The Bible) is the inerrant Word of God breathed into the writers/authors of each book by the transcendent inspiration of the Holy Spirit(God). In the beginning was THE WORD(God) and THE WORD became flesh(Jesus).
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Old 06-29-2014, 12:17 PM   #77
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Old 06-29-2014, 12:28 PM   #78
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Here we go again.

1/2 to 2/3 if not more of people in this country on welfare are 'sluggards'. Jesus say's the poor will always be with you. The 'truly poor' that is. Do you really think Jesus(who IS GOD btw) supports 'sluggards/deadbeats'(a la chosen LAZINESS) which IS SIN btw. Do a word study in the Scriptures on 'sluggard'(Proverbs especially) and then try to justify not only those 'sluggards' but also a govt that makes it much more easier to stay home thus enabling the sluggard to be entitled(won't seek a job UNLESS it pays well and it practically is given to them on their terms/hours they work-NOT REALISTIC),lazy,pointing the finger at the rich for their so- called condition of poverty justifying in their own 'entitled minds' they are so-called true victims(embracing and playing the Marx class warfare propaganda card-most not knowingly) thus never establishing any kind of self sufficiency thus ultimately deny themselves any chance at self-respect or dignity which has now gone on for many generations in these so-called poor families. "Learned Helplessness" is what our govt(Dems and GOP RINOs) continue to do enabling not only the 'generational sluggards/deadbeats' to go on but now directly tempting those who never have been on the 'govt tit' to go on it until the economy gets better while they(Dems and GOP RINOs) destroy any kind of 'real recovery' to our free capital market(e.g. pro-amnesty(more deadbeats to support), anti-coal,anti-Keystone,etc..) so that prosperous jobs for all can be attained. How insane is that ?

Yes Jesus did say we must support our govt with taxes but I assure you Jesus does not endorse 'stealing' either, whether it be the govt, free market corporate greed monger or a deadbeat living off our taxes when he/she could be working. Which now begs the task of defining what 'truly poor' means. We are not talking about 'judging' the 'truly poor' Lone. We are talking about 'judging sin' and 'sluggardness' is SIN.

Again Lone, there was a reason why Jesus asked the blind beggar in Luke 18:35-43, "What can I do for you"? Jesus knowing full well he was blind prior to addressing him. Why would Jesus ask such a question knowing what the obvious answer would be ? All of Jesus's healing of the blind were not just intended to heal the physical ailment only, but more so to show the spiritual blindness of man and how Jesus is the true light of the world who IS THE SON OF GOD by performing these miracles so that man whether physically blind or not will be able to 'truly see spiritual truth' in HIM. But HE will not force himself upon us(will not remove us from our lot in life if we don't want it-our freewill ) and why he asked the blind man, "what can I do for you" ? Meaning, Jesus knew he was getting indirect and direct benefits from his blindness and begging. Now, because the beggar was granted the miracle of his sight not only will he praise Jesus to the masses of unbelievers around him but he now 'knows' he has no excuse to beg anymore because he can actually fend for himself which was much more difficult for blind people to do back then than it is today. There are many successful blind people today in our society who don't live off the govt.

How many 'sluggards' have their physical sight and still beg by living off the govt Lone ?

BTW, whether Jesus(God himself) or the apostle Paul, all scripture(The Bible) is the inerrant Word of God breathed into the writers/authors of each book by the transcendent inspiration of the Holy Spirit(God). In the beginning was THE WORD(God) and THE WORD became flesh(Jesus).
Jesus said not to judge, period. Sin included. I don't recall Jesus saying "Give to and help the poor, except for people YOU think aren't worthy."

Also, 92 percent of government social safety net goes towards working households, retired, or disabled persons, not able bodied Americans refusing to work.

It sounds like you know neither what Jesus said, nor what the true state of the American social safety net is.
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Old 06-29-2014, 01:27 PM   #79
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Here we go again.

1/2 to 2/3 if not more of people in this country on welfare are 'sluggards'. Jesus say's the poor will always be with you. The 'truly poor' that is. Do you really think Jesus(who IS GOD btw) supports 'sluggards/deadbeats'(a la chosen LAZINESS) which IS SIN btw. Do a word study in the Scriptures on 'sluggard'(Proverbs especially) and then try to justify not only those 'sluggards' but also a govt that makes it much more easier to stay home thus enabling the sluggard to be entitled(won't seek a job UNLESS it pays well and it practically is given to them on their terms/hours they work-NOT REALISTIC),lazy,pointing the finger at the rich for their so- called condition of poverty justifying in their own 'entitled minds' they are so-called true victims(embracing and playing the Marx class warfare propaganda card-most not knowingly) thus never establishing any kind of self sufficiency thus ultimately deny themselves any chance at self-respect or dignity which has now gone on for many generations in these so-called poor families. "Learned Helplessness" is what our govt(Dems and GOP RINOs) continue to do enabling not only the 'generational sluggards/deadbeats' to go on but now directly tempting those who never have been on the 'govt tit' to go on it until the economy gets better while they(Dems and GOP RINOs) destroy any kind of 'real recovery' to our free capital market(e.g. pro-amnesty(more deadbeats to support), anti-coal,anti-Keystone,etc..) so that prosperous jobs for all can be attained. How insane is that ?

Yes Jesus did say we must support our govt with taxes but I assure you Jesus does not endorse 'stealing' either, whether it be the govt, free market corporate greed monger or a deadbeat living off our taxes when he/she could be working. Which now begs the task of defining what 'truly poor' means. We are not talking about 'judging' the 'truly poor' Lone. We are talking about 'judging sin' and 'sluggardness' is SIN.

Again Lone, there was a reason why Jesus asked the blind beggar in Luke 18:35-43, "What can I do for you"? Jesus knowing full well he was blind prior to addressing him. Why would Jesus ask such a question knowing what the obvious answer would be ? All of Jesus's healing of the blind were not just intended to heal the physical ailment only, but more so to show the spiritual blindness of man and how Jesus is the true light of the world who IS THE SON OF GOD by performing these miracles so that man whether physically blind or not will be able to 'truly see spiritual truth' in HIM. But HE will not force himself upon us(will not remove us from our lot in life if we don't want it-our freewill ) and why he asked the blind man, "what can I do for you" ? Meaning, Jesus knew he was getting indirect and direct benefits from his blindness and begging. Now, because the beggar was granted the miracle of his sight not only will he praise Jesus to the masses of unbelievers around him but he now 'knows' he has no excuse to beg anymore because he can actually fend for himself which was much more difficult for blind people to do back then than it is today. There are many successful blind people today in our society who don't live off the govt.

How many 'sluggards' have their physical sight and still beg by living off the govt Lone ?

BTW, whether Jesus(God himself) or the apostle Paul, all scripture(The Bible) is the inerrant Word of God breathed into the writers/authors of each book by the transcendent inspiration of the Holy Spirit(God). In the beginning was THE WORD(God) and THE WORD became flesh(Jesus).
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the reality is that the vast majority of poor people can aspire all you want them to, but there are no jobs for them...

is part of the reality of human nature that people tend to get discouraged and give up when there is no chance of improving their situation, despite their good character and admirable intentions?
Yes, of course it is. It's also human nature to be more easily discouraged when you're not as desperate.

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is part of our commitment for the greater good (promote the general welfare ring any bells?) to use the standards of backwards underdeveloped countries as a measuring stick for our own people's general welfare?
I don't know what this question has to do with anything. It's clear that we already go way above and beyond what most backwards underdeveloped countries do when it comes to assistance for the poor.

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from your pov, no-one can be criticized, that's right...

but unfortunately your pov hasn't prevailed, yet...
Do you understand what this thread is about?
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Old 06-29-2014, 03:55 PM   #81
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Jesus said not to judge, period. Sin included.
Here we go again with taking "Scripture out of context".

Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged

"JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED" is often quoted by THE HYPOCRITES to those who PUBLICLY OPPOSE SIN.

Let's look at the passage in its context:

MATTHEW 7:1-5:

"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull the mote out of thine eye; and behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast the mote out of thy brother's eye."

Clearly, it is hypocritical judgment that this Scripture condemns. (Look at verse 6, and 13-15 to see that Christ actually instructs them to make judgments!) A hypocritical judgment is judging something for something of which you are also guilty - LIKE TELLING ME NOT TO JUDGE WHEN YOU ARE JUDGING ME! This passage means the opposite of what hypocrites often interpret it to mean! Jesus' point is for hypocrites to pluck the beam of sin out of their own eye so that they can see clearly to cast the mote out of their neighbor's eye.

It should be noted that this passage has erroneously been used to suggest that believers should never evaluate or criticize anyone for anything. Our day hates absolutes, especially theological and moral absolutes, and such simplistic interpretation provides a convenient escape from confrontation. Members of modern society, including many professing Christians, tend to resist dogmatism and strong convictions about right and wrong. Many people prefer to speak of all-inclusive love, compromise, ecumenism, and unity. To the modern religious person those are the only “doctrines” worth defending, and they are the doctrines to which every conflicting doctrine must be sacrificed.

The entire thrust of the Sermon on the Mount is to show the complete distinction between true religion and false religion, between spiritual truth and spiritual hypocrisy. Jesus places God’s perfect and holy standards beside the unholy and self-righteous standards of the scribes and Pharisees and declares that those who follow those unholy and self-righteous standards have no part in God’s kingdom (5:20). No more controversial or judgmental sermon has ever been preached.

If this greatest sermon by our Lord teaches anything, it teaches that His followers are to be discerning and perceptive in what they believe and in what they do, that they must make every effort to judge between truth and falsehood, between the internal and the external, between reality and sham, between true righteousness and false: righteousness-in short, between God’s way and all other ways.


Krino (to judge) means basically to separate, choose, select, or determine, and has a dozen or more shades of meaning that must be decided from the context. In our present passage Jesus is referring to the judgment of motives, which no mere human being can know of another, and to judgment of external forms. Paul says, “Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather determine this-not to put an obstacle or a stumbling block in a brother’s way” (Rom. 14:13).

The Bible consistently forbids individual or vigilante justice that assumes for itself the prerogatives of a duly established court of law. It also consistently forbids hasty judgments that do not have full knowledge of the heart or of the facts. “He who gives an answer before he hears, it is folly and shame to him” (Prov. 18:13). Sometimes what appears to be wrong is nothing of the sort.

It is significant that, though God is omniscient, He gives us many examples of the care we ourselves should take before making judgments, especially those that involve serious consequences. Before He judged those who were building the tower of Babel, “The Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built” (Gen. 11:5). Before He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah He said, “I will go down now, and see if they have done entirely according to its outcry, which has come to Me; and if not, I will know” (Gen. 18:21).

What Jesus here forbids is self-righteous, officious, hasty, unmerciful, prejudiced, and unwarranted condemnation based on human standards and human understanding. He gives three reasons why such judgment is sinful: it reveals an erroneous view of God, an erroneous view of others, and an erroneous view of ourselves.

Unrighteous and unmerciful judgment is forbidden first of all because it manifests a wrong view of God. With the phrase lest you be judged, Jesus reminds the scribes and Pharisees that they are not the final court. To judge another person’s motives or to curse to condemnation is to play God. “For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son” (John 5:22). During the millennial kingdom Christ will share some of that judgment with us (Matt. 19:28; 1 Cor. 6:2; etc.), but until that time we blaspheme God whenever we take upon ourselves the role of judge. “Who are you to judge the servant of another?” Paul asks. “To his own master he stands or falls” (Rom. 14:4). Paul was little concerned about how other people judged him, and was not even concerned about how he judged himself. “I am conscious of nothing against myself,” he says, “yet I am not by this acquitted; but the one who examines me is the Lord” (1 Cor. 4:3–4).

Except as they may be continually teaching false doctrine or following standards that are clearly unscriptural, we are never to judge a person’s ministry, teaching, or life-and certainly not his motives-by a self-styled standard “Do not speak against one another,” James warns us. “He who speaks against a brother, or judges his brother, speaks against the law, and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge of it. There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?” (James 4:11–12). Such evil judgment is blasphemous, because it sets a man up as God-and there is only one true Judge.

Whenever we assign people to condemnation without mercy because they do not do something the way we think it ought to be done or because we believe their motives are wrong, we pass judgment that only God is qualified to make.

The Savior does not call for men to cease to be examining and discerning, but to renounce the presumptuous temptation to try to be God.
Let's look at some other Scriptures...


JOHN 7:24: "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

LUKE 12:57: "Yea, and why not even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?"

PSALM 37:30: "The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment."

PROVERBS 31:9: "Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy."

LUKE 17:3: "Take heed... If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him."

LEVITICUS 19:15-17: "Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor. Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbor: I am the Lord. Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbor, and not suffer sin upon him."

EZEKIEL 22:2 & 23:36: "Now, thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody city? Yea, thou shalt show her all her abominations... The Lord said moreover unto me, Son of man, wilt thou judge Aholah and Aholibah? Yea, declare unto them their abominations."

ISAIAH 58:1: "Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew My people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins."

MATTHEW 3:2,7: John the Baptist preaching, "Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?"

MATTHEW 23: Jesus publicly rebuked the hypocrites, "Woe unto you... hypocrites!...ye blind guides...fools...full of extortion and excess...whited sepulchres...full of hypocrisy and iniquity...Woe unto you...Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?"

ACTS 7:51: Deacon Stephen said to the mob that ended up stoning him, "Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in hearts and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye." (Read the whole chapter - No fear-of-man patty cake here!)

ACTS 13:10: The Apostle Paul says to a man who hindered the Gospel, "O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?"

ACTS 8:20-23: Here the Apostle Peter severely rebukes a baby Christian who commits one sin: "Thy money perish with thee... Thy heart is not right in the sight of God.Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitter-ness, and in the bond of iniquity."

I CORINTHIANS 2:15; 6:2-3: "He that is spiritual judgeth all things... Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? How much more things that pertain to this life?"

JOHN 3:18-19: "He that believeth on Him (JESUS) is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already,because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."

JOHN 12:48: JESUS CHRIST said, "He that rejecteth Me, and receiveth not My words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day."

***It is God that sets the standard and passes the judgment. We simply pass on the information. Hate the sin and love the sinner by allowing them to hear 'The Word' IN HIS LOVE and that is the KEY. God looks at the motive of our heart when we administer HIS WORD to others regardless if they are Christians or Non-believers and determines whether it is 'unrighteous judgement'(because we have not removed the plank from our own eye thus there is no humility or God's love in our heart at the time thus we play GOD which is sin) or 'righteous loving judgment'(given with a humble, gentle kindness,patience and loving gracious heart of Jesus) because we know we are no different or better as Christians who are still sinners than those who not saved.

No man has any right to define what is right and wrong - ONLY God! Those who reject God's laws and judgments and trust in their own judgments are the ones guilty of judging in the worst sense of the word. For example, the person that says premarital sex is okay is judging just as much as the person who says it is sin. What right do you have to judge another human being? (It works both ways.) God is the ultimate Judge, and it is up to us to submit unto His judgments. The Psalmist said,

"With my lips have I declared all the judgments of THY mouth." (Psalm 119:13) Whose judgments do you declare?

QUESTION: What are God's judgments?

Here are some...

*IDOLATERS (those who love self, anyone, or anything more than their God) are headed for the lake of fire

*THOSE WHO TAKE GOD'S NAME IN VAIN and THOSE WHO CURSE THEIR NEIGHBORS will be cursed by God

*THOSE WHO DISHONOR THEIR PARENTS will be damned forever

*THOSE WHO INDULGE IN PREMARITAL SEX or EXTRAMARITAL SEX will suffer the eternal torments of fire and brimstone

*HOMOSEXUALS will bear the fierce vengeance of their HOLY CREATOR on the Day of Woe and Doom

*FILTHY PORN-ADDICTS will suffer everlasting punishments

*DRUNKARDS will sup the cup of the wrath of Almighty God

*THOSE WHO MURDER (esp. PRO-CHOICERS who murder innocent babies) will experience the terrible second death

*WITCHES AND SORCERERS will bow to Jesus and confess He is Lord before being bound hand and foot and cast into hell

*LIARS will be condemned by their own words

*THIEVES will pay for their crimes in the courtroom of eternal justice

*THOSE WHO DO NOT SUBMIT TO JESUS will be judged "Guilty" by Him on JUDGMENT DAY, and be cast into eternal hellfire

(See Exodus 20, I Corin. 6:9-11, Galat. 5:19-21, Matt. 5:27-30, Ephes. 5:5-6, Colos. 3:5-6, Revel. 21:8 & 22:14-15...)

***The Bible tells us why so many do not understand preaching on judgment. It is because they are evil fools, destitute of all wisdom and knowledge!

"EVIL MEN understand not judgment, but they that seek the Lord understand all things." (Proverbs 28:5). "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but FOOLS despise wisdom and instruction." (Prov.1:7; see also Prov.9:7-10)

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep His commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil." Written by King Solomon, the wisest man that ever lived, in Ecclesiastes 12:13-14.
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Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged

"JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED" is often quoted by THE HYPOCRITES to those who PUBLICLY OPPOSE SIN.

Let's look at the passage in its context:

MATTHEW 7:1-5:

"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull the mote out of thine eye; and behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast the mote out of thy brother's eye."

Clearly, it is hypocritical judgment that this Scripture condemns. (Look at verse 6, and 13-15 to see that Christ actually instructs them to make judgments!) A hypocritical judgment is judging something for something of which you are also guilty - LIKE TELLING ME NOT TO JUDGE WHEN YOU ARE JUDGING ME! This passage means the opposite of what hypocrites often interpret it to mean! Jesus' point is for hypocrites to pluck the beam of sin out of their own eye so that they can see clearly to cast the mote out of their neighbor's eye.

It should be noted that this passage has erroneously been used to suggest that believers should never evaluate or criticize anyone for anything. Our day hates absolutes, especially theological and moral absolutes, and such simplistic interpretation provides a convenient escape from confrontation. Members of modern society, including many professing Christians, tend to resist dogmatism and strong convictions about right and wrong. Many people prefer to speak of all-inclusive love, compromise, ecumenism, and unity. To the modern religious person those are the only “doctrines” worth defending, and they are the doctrines to which every conflicting doctrine must be sacrificed.

The entire thrust of the Sermon on the Mount is to show the complete distinction between true religion and false religion, between spiritual truth and spiritual hypocrisy. Jesus places God’s perfect and holy standards beside the unholy and self-righteous standards of the scribes and Pharisees and declares that those who follow those unholy and self-righteous standards have no part in God’s kingdom (5:20). No more controversial or judgmental sermon has ever been preached.

If this greatest sermon by our Lord teaches anything, it teaches that His followers are to be discerning and perceptive in what they believe and in what they do, that they must make every effort to judge between truth and falsehood, between the internal and the external, between reality and sham, between true righteousness and false: righteousness-in short, between God’s way and all other ways.


Krino (to judge) means basically to separate, choose, select, or determine, and has a dozen or more shades of meaning that must be decided from the context. In our present passage Jesus is referring to the judgment of motives, which no mere human being can know of another, and to judgment of external forms. Paul says, “Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather determine this-not to put an obstacle or a stumbling block in a brother’s way” (Rom. 14:13).

The Bible consistently forbids individual or vigilante justice that assumes for itself the prerogatives of a duly established court of law. It also consistently forbids hasty judgments that do not have full knowledge of the heart or of the facts. “He who gives an answer before he hears, it is folly and shame to him” (Prov. 18:13). Sometimes what appears to be wrong is nothing of the sort.

It is significant that, though God is omniscient, He gives us many examples of the care we ourselves should take before making judgments, especially those that involve serious consequences. Before He judged those who were building the tower of Babel, “The Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built” (Gen. 11:5). Before He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah He said, “I will go down now, and see if they have done entirely according to its outcry, which has come to Me; and if not, I will know” (Gen. 18:21).

What Jesus here forbids is self-righteous, officious, hasty, unmerciful, prejudiced, and unwarranted condemnation based on human standards and human understanding. He gives three reasons why such judgment is sinful: it reveals an erroneous view of God, an erroneous view of others, and an erroneous view of ourselves.

Unrighteous and unmerciful judgment is forbidden first of all because it manifests a wrong view of God. With the phrase lest you be judged, Jesus reminds the scribes and Pharisees that they are not the final court. To judge another person’s motives or to curse to condemnation is to play God. “For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son” (John 5:22). During the millennial kingdom Christ will share some of that judgment with us (Matt. 19:28; 1 Cor. 6:2; etc.), but until that time we blaspheme God whenever we take upon ourselves the role of judge. “Who are you to judge the servant of another?” Paul asks. “To his own master he stands or falls” (Rom. 14:4). Paul was little concerned about how other people judged him, and was not even concerned about how he judged himself. “I am conscious of nothing against myself,” he says, “yet I am not by this acquitted; but the one who examines me is the Lord” (1 Cor. 4:3–4).

Except as they may be continually teaching false doctrine or following standards that are clearly unscriptural, we are never to judge a person’s ministry, teaching, or life-and certainly not his motives-by a self-styled standard “Do not speak against one another,” James warns us. “He who speaks against a brother, or judges his brother, speaks against the law, and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge of it. There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?” (James 4:11–12). Such evil judgment is blasphemous, because it sets a man up as God-and there is only one true Judge.

Whenever we assign people to condemnation without mercy because they do not do something the way we think it ought to be done or because we believe their motives are wrong, we pass judgment that only God is qualified to make.

The Savior does not call for men to cease to be examining and discerning, but to renounce the presumptuous temptation to try to be God.
Let's look at some other Scriptures...


JOHN 7:24: "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

LUKE 12:57: "Yea, and why not even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?"

PSALM 37:30: "The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment."

PROVERBS 31:9: "Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy."

LUKE 17:3: "Take heed... If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him."

LEVITICUS 19:15-17: "Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor. Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbor: I am the Lord. Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbor, and not suffer sin upon him."

EZEKIEL 22:2 & 23:36: "Now, thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody city? Yea, thou shalt show her all her abominations... The Lord said moreover unto me, Son of man, wilt thou judge Aholah and Aholibah? Yea, declare unto them their abominations."

ISAIAH 58:1: "Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew My people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins."

MATTHEW 3:2,7: John the Baptist preaching, "Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?"

MATTHEW 23: Jesus publicly rebuked the hypocrites, "Woe unto you... hypocrites!...ye blind guides...fools...full of extortion and excess...whited sepulchres...full of hypocrisy and iniquity...Woe unto you...Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?"

ACTS 7:51: Deacon Stephen said to the mob that ended up stoning him, "Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in hearts and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye." (Read the whole chapter - No fear-of-man patty cake here!)

ACTS 13:10: The Apostle Paul says to a man who hindered the Gospel, "O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?"

ACTS 8:20-23: Here the Apostle Peter severely rebukes a baby Christian who commits one sin: "Thy money perish with thee... Thy heart is not right in the sight of God.Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitter-ness, and in the bond of iniquity."

I CORINTHIANS 2:15; 6:2-3: "He that is spiritual judgeth all things... Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? How much more things that pertain to this life?"

JOHN 3:18-19: "He that believeth on Him (JESUS) is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already,because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."

JOHN 12:48: JESUS CHRIST said, "He that rejecteth Me, and receiveth not My words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day."

***It is God that sets the standard and passes the judgment. We simply pass on the information. Hate the sin and love the sinner by allowing them to hear 'The Word' IN HIS LOVE and that is the KEY. God looks at the motive of our heart when we administer HIS WORD to others regardless if they are Christians or Non-believers and determines whether it is 'unrighteous judgement'(because we have not removed the plank from our own eye thus there is no humility or God's love in our heart at the time thus we play GOD which is sin) or 'righteous loving judgment'(given with a humble, gentle kindness,patience and loving gracious heart of Jesus) because we know we are no different or better as Christians who are still sinners than those who not saved.

No man has any right to define what is right and wrong - ONLY God! Those who reject God's laws and judgments and trust in their own judgments are the ones guilty of judging in the worst sense of the word. For example, the person that says premarital sex is okay is judging just as much as the person who says it is sin. What right do you have to judge another human being? (It works both ways.) God is the ultimate Judge, and it is up to us to submit unto His judgments. The Psalmist said,

"With my lips have I declared all the judgments of THY mouth." (Psalm 119:13) Whose judgments do you declare?

QUESTION: What are God's judgments?

Here are some...

*IDOLATERS (those who love self, anyone, or anything more than their God) are headed for the lake of fire

*THOSE WHO TAKE GOD'S NAME IN VAIN and THOSE WHO CURSE THEIR NEIGHBORS will be cursed by God

*THOSE WHO DISHONOR THEIR PARENTS will be damned forever

*THOSE WHO INDULGE IN PREMARITAL SEX or EXTRAMARITAL SEX will suffer the eternal torments of fire and brimstone

*HOMOSEXUALS will bear the fierce vengeance of their HOLY CREATOR on the Day of Woe and Doom

*FILTHY PORN-ADDICTS will suffer everlasting punishments

*DRUNKARDS will sup the cup of the wrath of Almighty God

*THOSE WHO MURDER (esp. PRO-CHOICERS who murder innocent babies) will experience the terrible second death

*WITCHES AND SORCERERS will bow to Jesus and confess He is Lord before being bound hand and foot and cast into hell

*LIARS will be condemned by their own words

*THIEVES will pay for their crimes in the courtroom of eternal justice

*THOSE WHO DO NOT SUBMIT TO JESUS will be judged "Guilty" by Him on JUDGMENT DAY, and be cast into eternal hellfire

(See Exodus 20, I Corin. 6:9-11, Galat. 5:19-21, Matt. 5:27-30, Ephes. 5:5-6, Colos. 3:5-6, Revel. 21:8 & 22:14-15...)

***The Bible tells us why so many do not understand preaching on judgment. It is because they are evil fools, destitute of all wisdom and knowledge!

"EVIL MEN understand not judgment, but they that seek the Lord understand all things." (Proverbs 28:5). "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but FOOLS despise wisdom and instruction." (Prov.1:7; see also Prov.9:7-10)

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep His commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil." Written by King Solomon, the wisest man that ever lived, in Ecclesiastes 12:13-14.
Great reminder that self examination and repentance is required.
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Here we go again with taking "Scripture out of context".

Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged

"JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED" is often quoted by THE HYPOCRITES to those who PUBLICLY OPPOSE SIN.

Let's look at the passage in its context:

MATTHEW 7:1-5:

"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull the mote out of thine eye; and behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast the mote out of thy brother's eye."

Clearly, it is hypocritical judgment that this Scripture condemns. (Look at verse 6, and 13-15 to see that Christ actually instructs them to make judgments!) A hypocritical judgment is judging something for something of which you are also guilty - LIKE TELLING ME NOT TO JUDGE WHEN YOU ARE JUDGING ME! This passage means the opposite of what hypocrites often interpret it to mean! Jesus' point is for hypocrites to pluck the beam of sin out of their own eye so that they can see clearly to cast the mote out of their neighbor's eye.

It should be noted that this passage has erroneously been used to suggest that believers should never evaluate or criticize anyone for anything. Our day hates absolutes, especially theological and moral absolutes, and such simplistic interpretation provides a convenient escape from confrontation. Members of modern society, including many professing Christians, tend to resist dogmatism and strong convictions about right and wrong. Many people prefer to speak of all-inclusive love, compromise, ecumenism, and unity. To the modern religious person those are the only “doctrines” worth defending, and they are the doctrines to which every conflicting doctrine must be sacrificed.

The entire thrust of the Sermon on the Mount is to show the complete distinction between true religion and false religion, between spiritual truth and spiritual hypocrisy. Jesus places God’s perfect and holy standards beside the unholy and self-righteous standards of the scribes and Pharisees and declares that those who follow those unholy and self-righteous standards have no part in God’s kingdom (5:20). No more controversial or judgmental sermon has ever been preached.

If this greatest sermon by our Lord teaches anything, it teaches that His followers are to be discerning and perceptive in what they believe and in what they do, that they must make every effort to judge between truth and falsehood, between the internal and the external, between reality and sham, between true righteousness and false: righteousness-in short, between God’s way and all other ways.


Krino (to judge) means basically to separate, choose, select, or determine, and has a dozen or more shades of meaning that must be decided from the context. In our present passage Jesus is referring to the judgment of motives, which no mere human being can know of another, and to judgment of external forms. Paul says, “Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather determine this-not to put an obstacle or a stumbling block in a brother’s way” (Rom. 14:13).

The Bible consistently forbids individual or vigilante justice that assumes for itself the prerogatives of a duly established court of law. It also consistently forbids hasty judgments that do not have full knowledge of the heart or of the facts. “He who gives an answer before he hears, it is folly and shame to him” (Prov. 18:13). Sometimes what appears to be wrong is nothing of the sort.

It is significant that, though God is omniscient, He gives us many examples of the care we ourselves should take before making judgments, especially those that involve serious consequences. Before He judged those who were building the tower of Babel, “The Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built” (Gen. 11:5). Before He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah He said, “I will go down now, and see if they have done entirely according to its outcry, which has come to Me; and if not, I will know” (Gen. 18:21).

What Jesus here forbids is self-righteous, officious, hasty, unmerciful, prejudiced, and unwarranted condemnation based on human standards and human understanding. He gives three reasons why such judgment is sinful: it reveals an erroneous view of God, an erroneous view of others, and an erroneous view of ourselves.

Unrighteous and unmerciful judgment is forbidden first of all because it manifests a wrong view of God. With the phrase lest you be judged, Jesus reminds the scribes and Pharisees that they are not the final court. To judge another person’s motives or to curse to condemnation is to play God. “For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son” (John 5:22). During the millennial kingdom Christ will share some of that judgment with us (Matt. 19:28; 1 Cor. 6:2; etc.), but until that time we blaspheme God whenever we take upon ourselves the role of judge. “Who are you to judge the servant of another?” Paul asks. “To his own master he stands or falls” (Rom. 14:4). Paul was little concerned about how other people judged him, and was not even concerned about how he judged himself. “I am conscious of nothing against myself,” he says, “yet I am not by this acquitted; but the one who examines me is the Lord” (1 Cor. 4:3–4).

Except as they may be continually teaching false doctrine or following standards that are clearly unscriptural, we are never to judge a person’s ministry, teaching, or life-and certainly not his motives-by a self-styled standard “Do not speak against one another,” James warns us. “He who speaks against a brother, or judges his brother, speaks against the law, and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law, but a judge of it. There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?” (James 4:11–12). Such evil judgment is blasphemous, because it sets a man up as God-and there is only one true Judge.

Whenever we assign people to condemnation without mercy because they do not do something the way we think it ought to be done or because we believe their motives are wrong, we pass judgment that only God is qualified to make.

The Savior does not call for men to cease to be examining and discerning, but to renounce the presumptuous temptation to try to be God.
Let's look at some other Scriptures...


JOHN 7:24: "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment."

LUKE 12:57: "Yea, and why not even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?"

PSALM 37:30: "The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment."

PROVERBS 31:9: "Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy."

LUKE 17:3: "Take heed... If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him."

LEVITICUS 19:15-17: "Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor. Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbor: I am the Lord. Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbor, and not suffer sin upon him."

EZEKIEL 22:2 & 23:36: "Now, thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody city? Yea, thou shalt show her all her abominations... The Lord said moreover unto me, Son of man, wilt thou judge Aholah and Aholibah? Yea, declare unto them their abominations."

ISAIAH 58:1: "Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew My people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins."

MATTHEW 3:2,7: John the Baptist preaching, "Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?"

MATTHEW 23: Jesus publicly rebuked the hypocrites, "Woe unto you... hypocrites!...ye blind guides...fools...full of extortion and excess...whited sepulchres...full of hypocrisy and iniquity...Woe unto you...Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?"

ACTS 7:51: Deacon Stephen said to the mob that ended up stoning him, "Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in hearts and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye." (Read the whole chapter - No fear-of-man patty cake here!)

ACTS 13:10: The Apostle Paul says to a man who hindered the Gospel, "O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?"

ACTS 8:20-23: Here the Apostle Peter severely rebukes a baby Christian who commits one sin: "Thy money perish with thee... Thy heart is not right in the sight of God.Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitter-ness, and in the bond of iniquity."

I CORINTHIANS 2:15; 6:2-3: "He that is spiritual judgeth all things... Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? How much more things that pertain to this life?"

JOHN 3:18-19: "He that believeth on Him (JESUS) is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already,because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."

JOHN 12:48: JESUS CHRIST said, "He that rejecteth Me, and receiveth not My words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day."

***It is God that sets the standard and passes the judgment. We simply pass on the information. Hate the sin and love the sinner by allowing them to hear 'The Word' IN HIS LOVE and that is the KEY. God looks at the motive of our heart when we administer HIS WORD to others regardless if they are Christians or Non-believers and determines whether it is 'unrighteous judgement'(because we have not removed the plank from our own eye thus there is no humility or God's love in our heart at the time thus we play GOD which is sin) or 'righteous loving judgment'(given with a humble, gentle kindness,patience and loving gracious heart of Jesus) because we know we are no different or better as Christians who are still sinners than those who not saved.

No man has any right to define what is right and wrong - ONLY God! Those who reject God's laws and judgments and trust in their own judgments are the ones guilty of judging in the worst sense of the word. For example, the person that says premarital sex is okay is judging just as much as the person who says it is sin. What right do you have to judge another human being? (It works both ways.) God is the ultimate Judge, and it is up to us to submit unto His judgments. The Psalmist said,

"With my lips have I declared all the judgments of THY mouth." (Psalm 119:13) Whose judgments do you declare?

QUESTION: What are God's judgments?

Here are some...

*IDOLATERS (those who love self, anyone, or anything more than their God) are headed for the lake of fire

*THOSE WHO TAKE GOD'S NAME IN VAIN and THOSE WHO CURSE THEIR NEIGHBORS will be cursed by God

*THOSE WHO DISHONOR THEIR PARENTS will be damned forever

*THOSE WHO INDULGE IN PREMARITAL SEX or EXTRAMARITAL SEX will suffer the eternal torments of fire and brimstone

*HOMOSEXUALS will bear the fierce vengeance of their HOLY CREATOR on the Day of Woe and Doom

*FILTHY PORN-ADDICTS will suffer everlasting punishments

*DRUNKARDS will sup the cup of the wrath of Almighty God

*THOSE WHO MURDER (esp. PRO-CHOICERS who murder innocent babies) will experience the terrible second death

*WITCHES AND SORCERERS will bow to Jesus and confess He is Lord before being bound hand and foot and cast into hell

*LIARS will be condemned by their own words

*THIEVES will pay for their crimes in the courtroom of eternal justice

*THOSE WHO DO NOT SUBMIT TO JESUS will be judged "Guilty" by Him on JUDGMENT DAY, and be cast into eternal hellfire

(See Exodus 20, I Corin. 6:9-11, Galat. 5:19-21, Matt. 5:27-30, Ephes. 5:5-6, Colos. 3:5-6, Revel. 21:8 & 22:14-15...)

***The Bible tells us why so many do not understand preaching on judgment. It is because they are evil fools, destitute of all wisdom and knowledge!

"EVIL MEN understand not judgment, but they that seek the Lord understand all things." (Proverbs 28:5). "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but FOOLS despise wisdom and instruction." (Prov.1:7; see also Prov.9:7-10)

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep His commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil." Written by King Solomon, the wisest man that ever lived, in Ecclesiastes 12:13-14.
None of those verse say "help others and less fortunate except for those you judge as unworthy."

But keep inventing reason for why you can't follow the word of Christ. It's what "Christians" do best.
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