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Old 06-27-2014, 11:33 AM  
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75% of conservatives say the poor "have it easy."

This is somewhere in league with conservatives thinking video games are more dangerous than guns.

Divorced from reality.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-have-it-easy/

More than three quarters of conservatives say the poor “have it easy”
By Christopher Ingraham
June 26



So much for compassionate conservatism.

The Pew Research Center is out with part two of its huge survey of American politics. The first part, released a couple weeks ago, focused on political polarization. For this round, Pew's researchers have created a political typology which "sorts voters into cohesive groups based on their attitudes and values." There's plenty to say about this - and you can see where you fall in Pew's typology quiz here! - but for now I want to focus on the chart above, particularly the left half.

More than three quarters of conservative Americans - those in the steadfast conservative, business conservative, and young outsider typology groups - agree that "poor people have it easy because they can get government benefits without doing anything." Only seven percent of steadfast conservatives say that the poor "have hard lives."

Even a not-insignificant share of left-leaning groups say that the poor have it easy. But overall the widespread agreements among conservatives on this point is what's really striking here. There are reasonable, well-intentioned arguments on either side of many poverty-related issues - about the causes of poverty (see the right half of the chart), or whether government benefits provide a leg up or simply perpetuate poverty, for instance.

But I have a hard time understanding how you could read about the experience of families relying on food stamps to eat, or those trying to manage chronic conditions with Medicaid, and conclude that these people somehow have it easy. For context, here is a brief and wildly incomplete list of the ways life is "easy" when you're poor:The notion that poor people have it easy is at odds with the data.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:25 AM   #91
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That Jesus actually stated that "let he that does not work not eat?"
Minor but important quibble: It was Paul, not Jesus, and it is accurately translated as "he who is not willing to work". It was later used as a basic tenet at Jamestown, when they specifically made an exception for the disabled.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:09 AM   #92
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I really like to follow the spending habits and life choices of the poor folk I know. One has Six kids, 26 years old, has a college degree but works at some food processing plant for 8 dollars an hour. Wont look for a job to use their degree because they dont want to move away from their parents who live in small town Missouri where there are very few jobs for a college graduate to begin with. Basically because they choose to leech off of them for everything and then complain about them endlessly. And of course her kids above age 6 have Iphones and she has multiple ipads.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:11 AM   #93
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Quite honestly, most poor ppl these days have way more luxuries than any poor generation of ppl before them.
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Old 07-01-2014, 08:50 AM   #94
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:13 AM   #95
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This thread proves the effectiveness of this type of propaganda:

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Old 07-02-2014, 09:56 AM   #96
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Sloth is one of the 7 deadly sins.

How many American poor have iphones, internet, AC and look like Honey Booboo's mother?
Not a whole lot of Starvin Marvins' running around Walmart.
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:57 AM   #97
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According to Loneiguana most Americans are living in 3rd world conditions now.
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:23 AM   #98
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I don't envy the poor. I've been poor and didn't like it much and neither did my parents. That is why they worked hard to no longer be in that situation and why we lived within our means.

There is a pretty simple formula to solve the riddle individually, but it isn't easy.

Too many people are happy to sit back and get what they can get.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:11 AM   #99
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Liberals are fantastic charitable givers, as long as they are taking other people's money to give to charitable causes. Every study I've seen shows that Conservative's give a higher percentage of their income to charity than their liberal counter parts. Yet it's the Liberals who are perceived as the group that cares about the poor. Propaganda (left or right) does wonders for many things, and truth is not one of them.
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Old 07-02-2014, 01:29 PM   #100
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I don't envy the poor. I've been poor and didn't like it much and neither did my parents. That is why they worked hard to no longer be in that situation and why we lived within our means.

There is a pretty simple formula to solve the riddle individually, but it isn't easy.

Too many people are happy to sit back and get what they can get.
Yep. This is pretty much spot on. I grew up poor and vowed I would not live like that. I wanted too many things growing up that I could not have. It was a pretty powerful motivator.
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Old 07-09-2014, 12:38 AM   #101
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The only thing that the OP demonstrates is that extremes on both sides are equally as stupid.
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