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Old 06-30-2014, 09:44 AM  
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SCOTUS decides not to cripple public employee unions yet

The disaster that many unions feared appears to have been at least put off, if not averted.

Even though Alito wrote the opinion and it was 5-4, the opinion was very narrow. The court decided to define a class of employees called "partial government employees" and said they do not have to join or contribute to a union.

What was feared or anticipated depending on your point of view, was a reversal of the Abood decision which basically allowed public employee unions to force non-union members to pay a fee for collective bargaining services. The court said the Abood decision was questionable, but declined to overturn it for now.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:47 AM   #2
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No one cares, at least no one that's sane anyways.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:48 AM   #3
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I wouldn't be surprised if the narrow focus of the decision is the influence of Justice Kennedy and what it took to get his vote.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:49 AM   #4
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No one cares, at least no one that's sane anyways.
This was the only relevant and important decision today. The other case was a bunch of useless, unimportant, political bullcrap.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:50 AM   #5
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:57 AM   #6
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No one cares, at least no one that's sane anyways.
LOL perfect! (For those wondering, see the Hobby Lobby thread... )

The narrow scope on the opinion is such a missed opportunity to do something good.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:59 AM   #7
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The narrow scope on the opinion is such a missed opportunity to do something good.
I was excited for a moment when I saw Alito wrote it. Unfortunately, it looks like he did not have 5 votes to do what I was hoping, the best he could do was trash-talk Abood a bit.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:00 AM   #8
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The ruling was "narrow" only in the sense that it only applied to the home health care workers in this case. It was not narrow ideologically, and it's clearly a big blow to compulsory union membership/dues.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:05 AM   #9
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No one cares, at least no one that's sane anyways.
Gotta admit it... I laughed...
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:07 AM   #10
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The ruling was "narrow" only in the sense that it only applied to the home health care workers in this case. It was not narrow ideologically, and it's clearly a big blow to compulsory union membership/dues.
I don't understand how anyone couldn't think this is the right decision.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:15 AM   #11
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I personally think public sector unions should be dissolved, but this is an awesome step for the freedom to decide for one's self if they would like to belong to a union.
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:50 AM   #12
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I wouldn't be surprised if the narrow focus of the decision is the influence of Justice Kennedy and what it took to get his vote.
Yup.
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Old 06-30-2014, 01:35 PM   #13
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I personally think public sector unions should be dissolved, but this is an awesome step for the freedom to decide for one's self if they would like to belong to a union.

Agreed. Public employees should not be permitted to unionize.
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Old 06-30-2014, 03:15 PM   #14
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Agreed. Public employees should not be permitted to unionize.
The SEIU is hiring non-union temporary workers to wear purple shirts and protest outside your office even as we speak.
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