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Old 07-08-2014, 03:55 AM  
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Obama ditching Hillary for ‘Mini-Me’ Elizabeth Warren

This would send Hillary over the edge folks.


Obama ditching Hillary for ‘Mini-Me’ Elizabeth Warren

President Obama is going to renege on his campaign promise to Bill Clinton and press for Sen. Elizabeth Warren — not Hillary Rodham Clinton — to be the Democratic candidate for the White House in 2016, said “Blood Feud” author Edward Klein.

Writing in the New York Post, Mr. Klein said: “Publicly, Obama has remained noncommittal on the 2016 race, but privately he worries that Clinton would undo and undermine many of his policies. There’s also a personal animosity, especially with Bill Clinton, that dates from their tough race six years ago.

“Obama has authorized his chief political adviser, Valerie Jarrett, to conduct a full-court press to convince Warren to throw her hat into the ring,” Mr. Klein wrote. “In the past several weeks, Jarrett has held a series of secret meetings with Warren. During these meetings, Jarrett has explained to Warren that Obama is worried that if Hillary succeeds him in the White House, she will undo many of his policies.”

Mr. Klein said similarly on “Fox & Friends” Monday morning, calling Mrs. Warren a big draw for the progressive-minded who have cheered many of Mr. Obama’s policies.

Mr. Klein also said that Mr. Obama considers Ms. Warren a true supporter who would carry on his legacy in the executive office.

Ms. Warren has said that she has no plans to run for the White House, but hasn’t completely shut the door on the option, Fox News reported.

Mr. Clinton, Mr. Klein writes, has privately feared an Obama renege, telling his closest friends that the president is “looking around for a candidate who’s just like him. Someone relatively unknown. Someone with a fresh face. He wants to clone himself — to find his Mini-Me.”
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Old 07-08-2014, 09:35 AM   #16
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This would send Hillary over the edge folks.


Obama ditching Hillary for ‘Mini-Me’ Elizabeth Warren

President Obama is going to renege on his campaign promise to Bill Clinton and press for Sen. Elizabeth Warren — not Hillary Rodham Clinton — to be the Democratic candidate for the White House in 2016, said “Blood Feud” author Edward Klein.

Writing in the New York Post, Mr. Klein said: “Publicly, Obama has remained noncommittal on the 2016 race, but privately he worries that Clinton would undo and undermine many of his policies. There’s also a personal animosity, especially with Bill Clinton, that dates from their tough race six years ago.

“Obama has authorized his chief political adviser, Valerie Jarrett, to conduct a full-court press to convince Warren to throw her hat into the ring,” Mr. Klein wrote. “In the past several weeks, Jarrett has held a series of secret meetings with Warren. During these meetings, Jarrett has explained to Warren that Obama is worried that if Hillary succeeds him in the White House, she will undo many of his policies.”

Mr. Klein said similarly on “Fox & Friends” Monday morning, calling Mrs. Warren a big draw for the progressive-minded who have cheered many of Mr. Obama’s policies.

Mr. Klein also said that Mr. Obama considers Ms. Warren a true supporter who would carry on his legacy in the executive office.

Ms. Warren has said that she has no plans to run for the White House, but hasn’t completely shut the door on the option, Fox News reported.

Mr. Clinton, Mr. Klein writes, has privately feared an Obama renege, telling his closest friends that the president is “looking around for a candidate who’s just like him. Someone relatively unknown. Someone with a fresh face. He wants to clone himself — to find his Mini-Me.”
Dumb.
No matter who runs, Obama won't exclusively support anyone until the nomination is locked up.
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Old 07-08-2014, 09:38 AM   #17
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Dumb.
No matter who runs, Obama won't exclusively support anyone until the nomination is locked up.
He's got a point. Obama is definitely going to lead from behind on this like with everything. He won't be clear on what he wants until it's absolutely safe for him politically.
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Old 07-08-2014, 09:39 AM   #18
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Agree with that.
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Old 07-08-2014, 09:48 AM   #19
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Old 07-08-2014, 10:08 AM   #20
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Well it's about time we didn't let them dictate the candidates for our elections, isn't it?

That's what's gotten us where we are at.
I like Warren. I think she very well should be part of the conversation. I'm just not optimistic about her nationwide chances.
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Old 07-08-2014, 10:44 AM   #21
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This was discussed last night on Fox. However, a Democratic strategist denies it.
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Old 07-08-2014, 10:46 AM   #22
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I don't know why center-right Obama would back Warren except to intentionally sabotage her. Warren is far more leftist than Hillary (who herself is more liberal in certain ways than Obama)
You must be very far to the left, including of Obama, to say something like that.
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Old 07-08-2014, 11:12 AM   #23
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If he was as far left as you make him out to be he would have pushed through single payer health care and been done with it.
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Old 07-08-2014, 11:19 AM   #24
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If he was as far left as you make him out to be he would have pushed through single payer health care and been done with it.
He didn't have legislative support for it despite democrats having a filibuster-proof majority, so no, that's not correct.
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Old 07-08-2014, 11:57 AM   #25
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If he was as far left as you make him out to be he would have pushed through single payer health care and been done with it.
NOPE!

Apparently, you don't know how our system works. The left has been socializing medicine for decades on an incremental basis, because single-payer can't get passed due to checks-and-balances of our system. Each intervention has made health care/insurance less affordable.

I think Obama would have preferred single-payer all along but you just can't put the entire insurance industry out-of-business in one fell swoop. It would have never passed. ACA, as bad as it is, needed legislative gimmicks and fraud to get shoved down our throats. Remember, they used reconciliation and Reid committed fraud to sneak it in.

What you're seeing is the Cloward-Piven strategy by Obama. As a Marxist, he knows exactly what he's doing. You just wait, the left will call for single-payer even more now. I've already heard some saying that. One right after ACA passed. Just the next stage to a Marxist.

Obama is a Marxist, that is far-left, at heart— but an accidental corporatist.
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Old 07-08-2014, 11:59 AM   #26
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Only people to the left of Obama's pragmatic approach for Marxism, would deem Obama as center-right. My God that's where libertarians sit—who value extremely limited govt and no health care mandates. The center has shifted incrementally to the left for decades as it is. More proof that the education system doesn't educate but indoctrinates, conditions students to think such nonsense. It's no surprise since the left, in particular Marxists, dominate education.
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Old 07-09-2014, 01:17 AM   #27
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NOPE!

Apparently, you don't know how our system works. The left has been socializing medicine for decades on an incremental basis, because single-payer can't get passed due to checks-and-balances of our system. Each intervention has made health care/insurance less affordable.

I think Obama would have preferred single-payer all along but you just can't put the entire insurance industry out-of-business in one fell swoop. It would have never passed. ACA, as bad as it is, needed legislative gimmicks and fraud to get shoved down our throats. Remember, they used reconciliation and Reid committed fraud to sneak it in.

What you're seeing is the Cloward-Piven strategy by Obama. As a Marxist, he knows exactly what he's doing. You just wait, the left will call for single-payer even more now. I've already heard some saying that. One right after ACA passed. Just the next stage to a Marxist.

Obama is a Marxist, that is far-left, at heart— but an accidental corporatist.
With the whole VA scandal, I don't see it happening for a while.
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Old 07-09-2014, 06:18 AM   #28
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Old 07-09-2014, 06:59 AM   #29
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I like Warren. I think she very well should be part of the conversation. I'm just not optimistic about her nationwide chances.
Because she's a voice for all the downtrodden. But of course, the economy is doing well right? Which side have you finally decided to take on this issue of the middle class?
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Old 07-09-2014, 07:17 AM   #30
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He didn't have legislative support for it despite democrats having a filibuster-proof majority, so no, that's not correct.
No he is actually correct. Go back to the campaign, Hillary's proposal was left of Obama's. Obama's proposal was what they basically did in Congress. If Hillary was POTUS we probably would have single payer today.
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