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Old 07-12-2014, 04:11 PM  
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Perry: Paul 'isolationist policies' are 'curiously blind,' 'wrong'

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(CNN) – "Curiously blind" and "wrong."

Is Rick Perry previewing harsh political attacks against Rand Paul should the two potential 2016 presidential candidates square off in a debate over foreign policy?

The Republican governor of Texas used those and other choice words against the Kentucky Republican senator in a Friday opinion piece that singularly trained political fire on Paul, by name, among Republicans.

Firing back, an adviser for Paul said Perry is "mischaracterizing Senator Paul's foreign policy."

At issue: Paul's ideological preference for the United States to avoid engaging in many hotspots across the world. Critics, such as Perry, liken it to outright isolationism.

"As a veteran, and as a governor who has supported Texas National Guard deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, I can understand the emotions behind isolationism. Many people are tired of war, and the urge to pull back is a natural, human reaction," Perry began his piece in the Washington Post. "Unfortunately, we live in a world where isolationist policies would only endanger our national security even further."

"That's why it's disheartening to hear fellow Republicans, such as Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.), suggest that our nation should ignore what's happening in Iraq."

A few weeks ago, during an interview with CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley, Paul said: "I'm not willing to send my son into that mess."

"Let's not be involved in the Iraq civil war," Paul said, referring to weeks of violence across that country. Radical Sunni militants have battled Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's Shiite government forces. The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, has not only gained ground in northern and western Iraq but also in Syria.

Perry took Paul's sentiments to task.

Noting "the main problem with this argument is that it means ignoring the profound threat that the group now calling itself the Islamic State poses to the United States and the world," the governor wrote. ". …This represents a real threat to our national security — to which Paul seems curiously blind — because any of these passport carriers can simply buy a plane ticket and show up in the United States without even a visa."

Perry then picked apart an opinion piece Paul recently wrote in the Wall Street Journal arguing against U.S. military intervention in Iraq.

Writing that Paul went "so far as to claim…that President Ronald Reagan's own doctrines would lead him to same conclusion," Perry said, "his analysis is wrong. Paul conveniently omitted Reagan's long internationalist record of leading the world with moral and strategic clarity."

And in perhaps one of his harshest critiques, Perry lumped Paul together with a favored political enemy of conservatives: President Barack Obama.

"Viewed together, Obama's policies have certainly led us to this dangerous point in Iraq and Syria, but Paul's brand of isolationism (or whatever term he prefers) would compound the threat of terrorism even further," Perry said.

Paul's team shot back at Perry's harsh criticism with stinging words of its own.

"60,000 children just invaded Texas, and their Governor has time to write an op ed in a Washington newspaper mischaracterizing Senator Paul's foreign policy," adviser Doug Stafford said in a statement to CNN, referring to the flood of unaccompanied children from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala surging into the United States along the southern border. "Perhaps he should concentrate on the invasion of his Southern border."

Perry and Paul each are considering a 2016 presidential run. It would be Perry's second run.
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:19 AM   #106
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Yes it was. I am certain of it. But it's another debate —already done.
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:38 AM   #107
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The Perry response towards the end makes him look pretty confused.
Note: They said don't let others define you—but they keep defining Rand as a libertarian. Rand has come right out and said he's not a libertarian. He's a conservative—with some libertarian views. That's the media for you. He's pretty far from being a libertarian and he is not his father on FP either.

Great video tho'.
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:58 AM   #108
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I think Rand would probably continue the momentum that Bush and Obama started, actually. They both had policies to exit Iraq, Bush establishing the date, and Obama following through.

As far as disengagement from the region, that's more of a question for congress than the president. I think Rand would respond to threats, as they appeared. But where engaging troops are concerned, I think Paul would be happy to be tied by the precedent Obama established in Syria, forcing congress to weigh in.
Come on, Taco. You know better than this. Bush never had a policy to exit Iraq.
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Old 07-15-2014, 07:00 AM   #109
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This is the truth. They want to challenge Iran for supremacy in the region. Which side are you picking?
There are more than 2 options here.
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:05 AM   #110
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There are more than 2 options here.
Yeah, that's kind of Rand Paul's point.
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Old 07-15-2014, 10:09 AM   #111
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Come on, Taco. You know better than this. Bush never had a policy to exit Iraq.
The Iraq troop pullout deadline was negotiated by the Bush Admin.
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The Iraq troop pullout deadline was negotiated by the Bush Admin.
When Congress generates a budget that includes significant cuts in the out years, do you get all excited about the "planned" deficit reductions?
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Yeah, that's kind of Rand Paul's point.
OK, so you understood that your "which side are you picking?" question wasn't serious then. Good.
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Old 07-15-2014, 11:22 AM   #114
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OK, so you understood that your "which side are you picking?" question wasn't serious then. Good.
So long as you understand that Dick Cheney's answer to the question (along with the establishment that Rick Perry represents) is currently "both."
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Old 07-15-2014, 11:29 AM   #115
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So long as you understand that Dick Cheney's answer to the question (along with the establishment that Rick Perry represents) is currently "both."
That's not Cheney's answer. I don't know anything about Rick Perry's establishment, but I doubt it's theirs either.
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Old 07-15-2014, 11:48 AM   #116
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That's not Cheney's answer. I don't know anything about Rick Perry's establishment, but I doubt it's theirs either.
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Much like the air in Chicago being 75% bullets, I guess we'd better prepare for the sky to become dark in here with Paul threads. Perhaps there should be a mega thread.
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Awe poor Cochise wants to have censorship for political topics. That's some real fear and butt-hurt I smell.
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:18 PM   #119
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Much like the air in Chicago being 75% bullets, I guess we'd better prepare for the sky to become dark in here with Paul threads. Perhaps there should be a mega thread.
It will happen with 100% certainty. And, when he fails to win the nomination, the conspiratorial cries will flow. Just like they did with Daddy Paul.
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:36 PM   #120
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I don't care what anyone thinks, its time for someone who see's the world differently to run things for a while, we know exactly what we're getting with the usual suspects... its high time for a change... I'm voting Paul.
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