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Old 07-14-2014, 10:16 PM  
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A Dick Move...

Actually he is kinda moderate on gay rights for Republicans of the time. Sounds like people in DC actually. But then there is a pretty scathing summation of his presidency. It doesn't go into the really seedy side of what he did but a surprising amount for someone that didn't live through Tricky Dicky.

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Old 07-16-2014, 04:18 PM   #76
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Huh...

WHAT EVENTS LED DIRECTLY TO THE SHOOTINGS?

Shortly before noon, General Canterbury made the decision to order the demonstrators to disperse. A Kent State police officer standing by the Guard made an announcement using a bullhorn. When this had no effect, the officer was placed in a jeep along with several Guardsmen and driven across the Commons to tell the protestors that the rally was banned and that they must disperse. This was met with angry shouting and rocks, and the jeep retreated. Canterbury then ordered his men to load and lock their weapons, tear gas canisters were fired into the crowd around the Victory Bell, and the Guard began to march across the Commons to disperse the rally. The protestors moved up a steep hill, known as Blanket Hill, and then down the other side of the hill onto the Prentice Hall parking lot as well as an adjoining practice football field. Most of the Guardsmen followed the students directly and soon found themselves somewhat trapped on the practice football field because it was surrounded by a fence. Yelling and rock throwing reached a peak as the Guard remained on the field for about ten minutes. Several Guardsmen could be seen huddling together, and some Guardsmen knelt and pointed their guns, but no weapons were shot at this time. The Guard then began retracing their steps from the practice football field back up Blanket Hill. As they arrived at the top of the hill, twenty-eight of the more than seventy Guardsmen turned suddenly and fired their rifles and pistols. Many guardsmen fired into the air or the ground. However, a small portion fired directly into the crowd. Altogether between 61 and 67 shots were fired in a 13 second period.
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:07 PM   #77
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I have always thought this was a disgrace but Governor Rhodes is to blame since Nixon (unlike JFK, IKE and Bush 1 ) had not Nationalized the Guard and was not in charge of them.
Link to where I said it was Nixon. Honestly if this happened today how many people in this thread would give Obama a complete pass?
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:10 PM   #78
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Huh...

WHAT EVENTS LED DIRECTLY TO THE SHOOTINGS?

Shortly before noon, General Canterbury made the decision to order the demonstrators to disperse. A Kent State police officer standing by the Guard made an announcement using a bullhorn. When this had no effect, the officer was placed in a jeep along with several Guardsmen and driven across the Commons to tell the protestors that the rally was banned and that they must disperse. This was met with angry shouting and rocks, and the jeep retreated. Canterbury then ordered his men to load and lock their weapons, tear gas canisters were fired into the crowd around the Victory Bell, and the Guard began to march across the Commons to disperse the rally. The protestors moved up a steep hill, known as Blanket Hill, and then down the other side of the hill onto the Prentice Hall parking lot as well as an adjoining practice football field. Most of the Guardsmen followed the students directly and soon found themselves somewhat trapped on the practice football field because it was surrounded by a fence. Yelling and rock throwing reached a peak as the Guard remained on the field for about ten minutes. Several Guardsmen could be seen huddling together, and some Guardsmen knelt and pointed their guns, but no weapons were shot at this time. The Guard then began retracing their steps from the practice football field back up Blanket Hill. As they arrived at the top of the hill, twenty-eight of the more than seventy Guardsmen turned suddenly and fired their rifles and pistols. Many guardsmen fired into the air or the ground. However, a small portion fired directly into the crowd. Altogether between 61 and 67 shots were fired in a 13 second period.
Even though this is discredited by photos and witnesses at least you finally admit they fired without any current threat or provocation at that time.
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:12 PM   #79
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Under Dongers logic the ATF agents should have shot and killed everyone at Clive Bundys place. At least they were armed and threatening to shoot.
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:30 PM   #80
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:32 PM   #81
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Just doomed.
Meh, Obama seems to have done pretty well despite being pretty all-around stupid!
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:35 PM   #82
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Massive cover up...we'll never know....
Had they been more visionary they would have just told them the hard drive crashed. Liberals would have just said, "Oh, yeah, OK back to whatever we were doing"!!!
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Link to where I said it was Nixon. Honestly if this happened today how many people in this thread would give Obama a complete pass?
Well, Cosmo has posted in this thread, so at least one.......
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Old 07-17-2014, 08:05 AM   #84
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Even though this is discredited by photos and witnesses at least you finally admit they fired without any current threat or provocation at that time.
Like I said, the peaceful hippie protesters had been throwing rocks and tear gas at the NG previous to the shooting. That's generally not a good idea. Do I think it was a justified use of force? No. But I understand it.

I'm basically just countering the argument that these hippies were having a sit-in and singing songs about peace and the meanie NG troops just came in with rifles blazzing.
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Old 07-17-2014, 08:51 AM   #85
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No one said that.
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Old 07-17-2014, 09:07 AM   #86
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No one said that.
You said that they weren't throwing rocks. They were.

And, that video that you posted doesn't show how aggressive the peaceful hippies were actually being during the protests. I wonder why...
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You said that they weren't throwing rocks. They were.

And, that video that you posted doesn't show how aggressive the peaceful hippies were actually being during the protests. I wonder why...
They had thrown rocks and the tear gas canisters back. There weren't at the time of the shooting. They were too far away for rocks to have reached them.
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They had thrown rocks and the tear gas canisters back. There weren't at the time of the shooting. They were too far away for rocks to have reached them.
Yes, I know.
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Because he is a goddamned hippie, that's why.
I've always wondered, does it hurt at all when you are as stupid as you are. I mean it's got to at least gotta hurt a little bit.
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