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Old 07-17-2014, 02:58 PM  
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Israel launches ground operation into Gaza

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/17/world/...html?hpt=hp_t2



Gaza City (CNN) -- [Breaking news update,Thursday, 3:50 p.m.]
The Israel Defense Forces initiated a ground operation into Gaza late Thursday following 10 days of bombings and airstrikes, the Israeli government said.
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:51 AM   #46
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Anybody who considers themselves pro-Israel in this conflict should really be watching the IDF's twitter page like a hawk. That page has got to be spooge-worthy for them.
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:54 AM   #47
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Anybody who considers themselves pro-Israel in this conflict should really be watching the IDF's twitter page like a hawk. That page has got to be spooge-worthy for them.
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:55 AM   #48
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All we can really hope for now is a quick resolution without much civilian bloodshed.
The duration has a lot to do with Hamas. In this case, they apparently tried to overwhelm Israel's defenses with a big barrage of ordinance (along with attempted infiltrations) which puts a big dent into their stockpiles. That and Israel's successful defense bodes well for your hoped-for quick resolution.
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:57 AM   #49
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Anybody who considers themselves pro-Israel in this conflict should really be watching the IDF's twitter page like a hawk. That page has got to be spooge-worthy for them.
Let's hope that to the extent that blood is shed in this conflict, that it all comes from the Hamas instigators and their Jew-hating supporters.
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Old 07-18-2014, 09:59 AM   #50
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IDF will make quick work of the terrorists. Hopefully they stay on and destroy the entire network and its infrastructure. Hamas is deserving of all IDF can inflict on them. Id expect the Lebanon cells to get an ass kicking as well.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:08 AM   #51
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Let's hope that to the extent that blood is shed in this conflict, that it all comes from the Hamas instigators and their Jew-hating supporters.
If that is in any way a dig at me, I think you should apologize.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:09 AM   #52
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The duration has a lot to do with Hamas. In this case, they apparently tried to overwhelm Israel's defenses with a big barrage of ordinance (along with attempted infiltrations) which puts a big dent into their stockpiles. That and Israel's successful defense bodes well for your hoped-for quick resolution.
Israel was already damn well defensed before the offensive.

Just saying.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:10 AM   #53
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A friend of mine scooted this video over to me. It's a really smart description of the Palestinian perspective in all this.

I'll drop it in here for you guys to watch, if you're so inclined to see an opinion different from your own.

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If that is in any way a dig at me, I think you should apologize.
I don't think you're either a member of Hamas or a jew-hating supporter, so no it wasn't a dig at you. You're just misguided, not malevolent.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:11 AM   #55
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I don't think you're either a member of Hamas or a jew-hating supporter, so no it wasn't a dig at you. You're just misguided, not malevolent.


Appreciate it.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:12 AM   #56
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I don't think you're either a member of Hamas or a jew-hating supporter, so no it wasn't a dig at you. You're just misguided, not malevolent.
He's one of the skirts Hamas would be hiding behind if he were a local.
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Israel was already damn well defensed before the offensive.

Just saying.
Right, that's why this operation will be shorter than it otherwise would be. Hamas shot it's wad and now Israel can focus on defanging them quickly instead of being forced to draw it out. It's notable, btw, that much of the Arab world, especially Egypt, remains quietly on the sidelines today.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:18 AM   #58
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Right, that's why this operation will be shorter than it otherwise would be. Hamas shot it's wad and now Israel can focus on defanging them quickly instead of being forced to draw it out. It's notable, btw, that much of the Arab world, especially Egypt, remains quietly on the sidelines today.
Notable perhaps, but completely predictable, as the Arab world can't do anything to help the Palestinians, and completely disagree with Israel in this conflict.

Israel had Hamas defanged in every way imaginable prior to this offensive. It is an offensive of choice, unfortunately.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:20 AM   #59
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There's no real endgame here that makes sense, pat.

Either the IDF is unable to take out Hamas (most likely the outcome), and will have killed a bunch of civilians for no desirable outcome.

Or the IDF will somehow manage to take out Hamas, leaving a power vacuum in Palestine that will most likely be filled by even more extremist outfits.

This is not about Hamas. It's about taking another footstep towards Greater Israel.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:23 AM   #60
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This is not about Hamas. It's about taking another footstep towards Greater Israel.
No, it's about stopping rockets from raining down on Israeli cities and prevent Israelis from living in bomb shelters. I've been there and been in a shelter in Ashkelon over night. What would you want your military to do if you had to do the same thing in Springfield or wherever you reside?
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