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Old 08-06-2014, 01:19 PM  
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Rep. Brooks charges war on whites by Democrats

(AP) — A Republican congressman from Alabama says Democrats are engaged in a "war on whites."

Congressman Mo Brooks made his comment on conservative talk radio host Laura Ingraham's program on Monday. He said the Democratic Party claims white people hate everyone else and that it's part of President Barack Obama's strategy of dividing people on the basis of race, sex and class.

The remarks came in a discussion of immigration legislation passed last week by the House that could result in increased deportations.

Brooks was responding to analysis saying that the Republican Party risks losing any appeal to Latino voters and will not be able to be successful in a national race if it appeals only to white voters.

"This is a part of the war on whites that's being launched by the Democratic Party. And the way in which they are launching this war is by claiming that whites hate everybody else," said Brooks. "It's a part of the strategy that Barack Obama implemented in 2008, continued it in 2012, where he divides us all on race, on sex, creed, envy, class warfare — all those kinds of things."

Brooks defended his comments in a phone interview Tuesday with The Associated Press and disputed the suggestion they were incendiary. He said that Democrats were the ones being incendiary, pointing to comments including an assertion by House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi this year that the GOP's failure to act on comprehensive immigration legislation had something to do with race.

"Race should not be an issue in public policy debates, we should be colorblind, we should be the melting pot," Brooks told the AP. "But so long as the Democrats have a political campaign strategy to divide Americans based on skin pigmentation then they are the ones who are fanning the fires and doing a disservice to our country, not those who try to hold the Democrats accountable for what is a very counterproductive and sinister campaign tactic."

To a request for comment, the spokeswoman for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, Emily Bittner, wrote in an email: "Wow. Congressman Brooks is living in his own world of paranoia, but sadly, this is precisely the kind of divisive rhetoric that has come to define House Republicans.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:13 PM   #91
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No they're not.

No they didn't.
Bush won 44% in 2004. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Dec25.html That's significant by any measure.

You seriously don't know anything if you don't think Hispanics are socially conservative. No one argues against this.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:13 PM   #92
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I have never once had the experience you described and I've lived in LA since 2000. Maybe there was some other reason the business owner was inhospitable and you just assumed it was because you speak English? I did have kind of a creepy experience in a central valley shithole called Martinez, CA. But I don't hold that as meaning anything.

I really don't think Hispanics are demanding that Americans accommodate their language any more than any other large immigrant community has been. There are places in LA where English feels like a second language to Russian, Korean, Ethiopian, Chinese, etc. Were you around for the original Irish immigration? How do you know someone who walked into a store didn't have a similar experience back then?
No, I'm no jerk, there was no reason to act like many of them did.

This was in Echo Park, maybe its better elsewhere around there.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:15 PM   #93
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Because we were talking about embracing "being an American". My point about the parents was that they're living in a country who's vastly dominant language is English, and they were shaming a Hispanic woman, living and working in the USA, who didn't speak Spanish. That's not hard to follow, right?
And you know that's never happened (assuming it did here, given your propensity to project and assume things) in the past with other groups of immigrants?

One negative interaction with your wife out of a bunch of positive ones is all the evidence you need that these groups somehow aren't assimilating like past groups? Do you realize how that sounds?
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:15 PM   #94
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Feel free to engage in the discussion any time, or just keep making baseless assertions.
I did, then you called me a essentially called me a racist for no reason. Which is exactly the type of behavior I was referring to. So feel free to discuss or keep making baseless assertions.
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No, I'm no jerk, there was no reason to act like many of them did.

This was in Echo Park, maybe its better elsewhere around there.
Echo Park is all hipsters now. I doubt anyone gets looked down on for speaking English. Ordering a Bud Light, now that will get you insta-scorned.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:16 PM   #96
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Bush won 44% in 2004. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Dec25.html That's significant by any measure.




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Old 08-07-2014, 02:17 PM   #97
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Echo Park is all hipsters now. I doubt anyone gets looked down on for speaking English. Ordering a Bud Light, now that will get you insta-scorned.
All the hipsters used to be in Silver Lake.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:18 PM   #98
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I did, then you called me a essentially called me a racist for no reason. Which is exactly the type of behavior I was referring to. So feel free to discuss or keep making baseless assertions.
I said it you were using the same argument "racists and people who wanted to perpetuate the status quo" used in the past. So not only did I not call you a racist, I merely said you were using the same argument as one of two groups - one of which was racists. You chose to immediately take offense and assume the racist mantle.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:19 PM   #99
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All the hipsters used to be in Silver Lake.
Too expensive. All yuppies now.
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Hispanics are generally socially conservative and used to vote republican in significant numbers - at least until your party got hijacked by the tea party and started turning away everyone who isn't a frothy angry white male.
I agree with socially conservative, but I'll have to do some research on this; aside from Florida/Bush I can't recall a Republican who got a majority of Hispanic votes in a state with a significant Hispanic numbers.
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Old 08-07-2014, 02:20 PM   #102
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Well they were on an upward swing until the tea party took over and candidates had to talk about stuff like self-deportation just to get through the primaries.

Ok so yeah Hispanics aren't that socially conservative when lumped in with the population that includes chain-email reading grandmas. How about we say Hispanics are on the socially conservative end of the scale that doesn't include evangelical nutjobs. Would that be acceptable?
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Well they were on an upward swing until the tea party took over and candidates had to talk about stuff like self-deportation just to get through the primaries.
"Hispanics used to vote republican in significant numbers" - Direct quote. That chart obliterates that notion. You also have no explanation for why Reagan & Bush I couldn't even win them on their way to landslides.
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I agree with socially conservative, but I'll have to do some research on this; aside from Florida/Bush I can't recall a Republican who got a majority of Hispanic votes in a state with a significant Hispanic numbers.
Republicans don't need a majority of Hispanic votes, they just 30-40%. The current trend is not good for them.
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