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Old 08-06-2014, 07:21 PM  
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Stillwater, mn cafe faces heat for adding 'minimum wage fee'

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A small cafe in Stillwater has thrown itself into the big battle over Minnesota’s minimum wage increases, inundating the cafe with dozens of phone calls and online comments this week after it tacked on a 35-cent fee to meal tabs.

Oasis Cafe owner Craig Beemer said the fee is needed to offset the 75-cent wage hike that took effect Aug. 1, the first time Minnesota’s minimum wage has increased in a decade. Even with only half a dozen servers, Beemer says it will cost him $10,000 more a year to pay servers $8 an hour instead of the federal rate of $7.25 an hour. Instead of adding it on to food prices, he added the minimum wage fee” — the only restaurant known to do so in Minnesota so far.

It’s set off a firestorm of debate on Facebook and in the east metro community, with one customer calling the cafe Wednesday to demand a refund and others taking to Facebook to encourage people to boycott the roadside cafe.

“We’re shocked at what’s going on,” manager Colin Orcutt said of the public response. “We’re all appalled at the response for just protecting his employees. We’re just doing what we have to do.”

It’s not the only restaurant responding to the wage hike.

Blue Plate Co., which owns eight restaurants in the Twin Cities and has about 650 workers, says the mandatory wage increase and rising expenses due to the health care law will cost the company $1.25 million, prompting the company to slightly increase prices and add a fee to servers when a credit card is used to pay a tip.

“We believe that the industry is overreacting,” Wade Luneberg of the MN State Council of UNITE HERE Unions told Star Tribune columnist Jon Tevlin this week. “Putting [minimum wage] fees on tickets and passing the cost on to consumers directly is strange at best, and creates an ‘us against them’ mentality while ordering dinner.”

At the Stillwater cafe, which sits at the edge of the downtown and near its historic caves, customers filed in Wednesday for the cafe’s signature burgers or breakfast meals. Despite online boycott threats, business has actually increased so far this week, Orcutt said.

“[Beemer] wants people to be aware we’re a small business and we’re trying to stay open,” he said, adding that the cafe considered running the restaurant without servers and more like a fast-food restaurant to make ends meet. “If you raise prices and don’t tell anyone, that seems more backhanded to me.”

Orcutt has worked in the industry for 10 years and said that he supports a wage hike for employees who don’t make tips, such as fast-food servers. But, he said, it’s different for the cafe’s servers who can make $25 to $40 in tips on top of $8 an hour in a weekend.

Earlier this year, that’s what the Minnesota Restaurant Association proposed, creating a two-tiered system that would give non-tipped employees that higher wage, while tipped employees who earned at least $12 an hour with tips remained at $7.25 an hour. But the Legislature approved the hike for all minimum-wage employees.

Beemer, who lives across the border in Wisconsin and has owned Oasis Cafe the past five years, wasn’t available for comment Wednesday. But Orcutt said Beemer wrote a letter to the Legislature opposing the new law.

Most customers outside the cafe Wednesday supported his decision.

“I think he did the right thing,” said customer Mike Stephan of Taylors Falls, who also owns a small business in Stillwater. “If nothing else, it’s making a bold statement.”
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Old 08-08-2014, 08:39 AM   #31
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Do Republicans seriously believe that companies can just willy nilly raise prices and decrease demand for their product, therefore decreasing profit margin. It's a total disconnect with reality.
Yeah prices have never gone up.
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Old 08-08-2014, 08:47 AM   #32
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Do Republicans seriously believe that companies can just willy nilly raise prices and decrease demand for their product, therefore decreasing profit margin. It's a total disconnect with reality.
Except it's not willy nilly. Expenses are real. When they go up, a business has the choice of cutting costs, raising prices, or reducing profit.

Cutting costs is already a constant goal, at what point does cost cutting have the same negative effect as raising prices? Reduced staffing, decreased marketing budget, lower quality raw materials all threaten to cost them business.

Cutting profit is more often than not going to be the last step they take. No one wants to take a pay cut. Would you take a 10k annual reduction in salary to keep your job? Probably only in very desperate times.
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Old 08-08-2014, 08:59 AM   #33
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Except it's not willy nilly. Expenses are real. When they go up, a business has the choice of cutting costs, raising prices, or reducing profit.

Cutting costs is already a constant goal, at what point does cost cutting have the same negative effect as raising prices? Reduced staffing, decreased marketing budget, lower quality raw materials all threaten to cost them business.

Cutting profit is more often than not going to be the last step they take. No one wants to take a pay cut. Would you take a 10k annual reduction in salary to keep your job? Probably only in very desperate times.
And the last thing a company does in a free market environment is raise prices.

You raise prices you immediately give your competitors an advantage over you. Remember, all companies are affected by a minimum wage increase.

And cutting costs aren't always negative. Decreasing employee turnover (which the minimum wage helps) is a positive cost cutting measure. Increasing employee productivity (which the minimum wage helps) is a positive cost cutting measure. Decreasing loss through employee theft or corruption (which the minimum wage helps) is a positive cost cutting measure.
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Old 08-08-2014, 12:34 PM   #34
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Remember, all companies are affected by a minimum wage increase.”

Assuming theft is caused by economic need, guessing that it will go down for the time period that it takes inflation to nullify the raise is a logical thought. The other assertions make no sense as all. The companies and employees are effected the same by the wage increse so, realitively speaking, nothing has changed to make employees more loyal or motivated.
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Old 08-08-2014, 01:59 PM   #35
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Yup. This dummy is simply using his business to voice his political views.
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:11 PM   #36
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Good job. Now imagine COSTS going up, but knowing the market can't bare a price increase. I'm literally talking about the simple fact that overhead increases costs. When costs increase and the market does not move, businesses have to take action to get their profit margins in line or everyone they employ loses a job.
In line with what?

What if your business has seen its profits increase far outpacing inflation and the average wage of the last 30 years – as many large corporations have? Is maybe just living with slightly less profit - but still much more than you made 10 years ago - an option? Can profits only go up but never go down?
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Can the customer pray the minimum wage fee away?
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:23 PM   #38
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This amount of derp saddens me coming from you.

A item cost x because that's what enough people are willing to pay for it. AKA what "the market will bear". Raising prices doesn't make more money to cover increased costs, it makes less money because decreases the amount sold of x.

If this company could have sold the same amount of x with this "fee", they would have done it already. Companies don't wait for a minimum wage increase to make more profit.

The free hand of the market will slap this company around.
Absolutely, it boggles the mind that pork producers waited to now to charge $6 plus a pound for run of the mill bacon. They could've been making bank for years and instead they wait until all the pigs die off from disease.

And why was milk $2.99 6 months ago, when poor schnurrers will gladly, ecstatically, pay $4.50 a gallon today?
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Old 08-09-2014, 12:07 AM   #39
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So basically the mistake he made was calling it "Minimum Wage fee" instead of simply upping his prices like everyone else.

He tried to show everyone how unhappy he is with the rate change and now its blowing up in his face.

He also sounds like a horrible person to work for.
How is it blowin' up in his face? He's seeing an upsurge in his business.

So he has some noisy leftists on FB not liking seeing the bill broken out which exposes them for what they are. There may be a lot of progs in Minnie but they also have a large contingent of libertarians too. Remember, they did elect a libertarian for a governor once too.

Meanwhile many other places are looking at self-serve kiosks further reducing the need for employees. So those thinking employers like him are horrible to work for will be put out of their misery.
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Absolutely, it boggles the mind that pork producers waited to now to charge $6 plus a pound for run of the mill bacon. They could've been making bank for years and instead they wait until all the pigs die off from disease.

It's almost like there is less supply of a product while demand has remained the same....

But go ahead and keep showing how conservatives don't understand capitalism.

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And why was milk $2.99 6 months ago, when poor schnurrers will gladly, ecstatically, pay $4.50 a gallon today?
Where the hell was milk 2.99 6 months ago?
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Duhh, minimum wage gets raised and stores have to raise prices to pay their minimum wage workers more....

Who is honestly surprised by this?

Next you will be telling me your shocked when landlords raise all the rents.........

ANd prices of other things go up

No one has ever heard of inflation? If you suddenly give a mandatory 15%-20% raise to a pretty big chunk of workers, there is going to be some inflation ....
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And the last thing a company does in a free market environment is raise prices.

You raise prices you immediately give your competitors an advantage over you. Remember, all companies are affected by a minimum wage increase.

And cutting costs aren't always negative. Decreasing employee turnover (which the minimum wage helps) is a positive cost cutting measure. Increasing employee productivity (which the minimum wage helps) is a positive cost cutting measure. Decreasing loss through employee theft or corruption (which the minimum wage helps) is a positive cost cutting measure.


I hope someday you get to have a job. That will be interesting.


In the real world we seek every opportunity to raise prices. In some cases a price increase will way more than compensate for a lower volume and a lower volume can drive a lower cost as well. But then you don't quite get this whole cost/price/volume idea. In some cases a price increase by the segment leader is answered by its competitors with an equal price increase.
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It's almost like there is less supply of a product while demand has remained the same....

But go ahead and keep showing how conservatives don't understand capitalism.
That's precisely the point. Your statement '[i]f this company could have sold the same amount of x with this "fee", they would have done it already' take none of that into account.

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Where the hell was milk 2.99 6 months ago?
Trader Joe's and Aldi.
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I hope someday you get to have a job. That will be interesting.


In the real world we seek every opportunity to raise prices. In some cases a price increase will way more than compensate for a lower volume and a lower volume can drive a lower cost as well. But then you don't quite get this whole cost/price/volume idea. In some cases a price increase by the segment leader is answered by its competitors with an equal price increase.
I hope someday you understand what an idiot you are.

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That's precisely the point. Your statement '[i]f this company could have sold the same amount of x with this "fee", they would have done it already' take none of that into account.

You are misunderstand the point of that comment, surprise surprise.

Changes in supply will affect prices. Changes in demand will affect prices.

Neither of those happened here. The point being, with the same supply and the same demand, if a company can sell x at the same volume at a higher price, the company will. Companies don't leave money on the table.

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Trader Joe's and Aldi.
So, places that pay way more than the minimum wage?
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