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Old 08-07-2014, 11:05 AM  
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Russian bombers penetrated U.S. airspace at least 16 times in past 10 days

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...e-least-16-ti/

Russian strategic nuclear bombers conducted at least 16 incursions into northwestern U.S. air defense identification zones over the past 10 days, an unusually sharp increase in aerial penetrations, according to U.S. defense officials.

The numerous flight encounters by Tu-95 Russian Bear H bombers prompted the scrambling of U.S. jet fighters on several occasions, and come amid heightened U.S.-Russia tensions over Ukraine. Also, during one bomber incursion near Alaska, a Russian intelligence-gathering jet was detected along with the bombers.

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Old 08-08-2014, 09:23 AM   #61
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Why?
Because the article itself says it is not U.S. airspace. It is a purposely misleading, inflammatory headline counting on derpers like you to not understand what the article actually says.

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Yes it is, to us.
No, its not. U.S. airspace is not the same as Defense identification zone.

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An Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) is airspace over land or water in which the identification, location, and control of civil aircraft is required in the interest of national security.[1] They extend beyond a country's airspace to give the country more time to respond to foreign and possibly hostile aircraft.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Def...ification_Zone

So again, the headline is misleading propaganda.

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This is article is from May. Why is it relevant to the recent incursions?
Because it currently points out this ADIZ is in international airspace and has been going on before.
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Old 08-08-2014, 09:31 AM   #62
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Okay, I see where you are going. That's fine. They didn't violate our territorial airspace, just our ADIZ.
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Old 08-08-2014, 09:34 AM   #63
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Okay, I see where you are going. That's fine. They didn't violate our territorial airspace, just our ADIZ.
Which makes the headline pure misleading propaganda.

Let me guess, you don't see a difference between our actual airspace and international airspace where we locate and track aircraft?

I'll give you a hint... anyone can fly in international airspace, even if it is in our ADIZ.
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Old 08-08-2014, 09:46 AM   #64
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Which makes the headline pure misleading propaganda.

Let me guess, you don't see a difference between our actual airspace and international airspace where we locate and track aircraft?

I'll give you a hint... anyone can fly in international airspace, even if it is in our ADIZ.
Of course I do. So do the Russians and everyone else.

The point here is the uptick in frequency.
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Old 08-08-2014, 09:55 AM   #65
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Of course I do. So do the Russians and everyone else.

The point here is the uptick in frequency.
It's a shame the headline didn't say "uptick in frequency of Russian bombers in our ADIZ" then.

But of course, that isn't nearly as inflammatory and fear causing.
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Old 08-08-2014, 09:59 AM   #66
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It's a shame the headline didn't say "uptick in frequency of Russian bombers in our ADIZ" then.

But of course, that isn't nearly as inflammatory and fear causing.
I guess I don't really see your point. The article headline didn't say "our territorial airspace."

What is inflammatory is the frequency of the incursions, and that's on the Russians.
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I guess I don't really see your point. The article headline didn't say "our territorial airspace."

What is inflammatory is the frequency of the incursions, and that's on the Russians.
"U.S. bombers penetrated U.S. airspace"

They did not. They stayed in international airspace.

Not that hard to understand.

Hence, misleading, inflammatory, fear causing propaganda headline.

You can keep saying "territorial airspace" like it means something, but the fact is they never entered U.S. airspace.
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:04 AM   #68
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Huh? He made a trap landing in an S-3. What did you expect him to wear? Armani?
Well, I guess if one must make a trap landing in an S-3...
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:09 AM   #69
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"U.S. bombers penetrated U.S. airspace"

They did not. They stayed in international airspace.

Not that hard to understand.

Hence, misleading, inflammatory, fear causing propaganda headline.

You can keep saying "territorial airspace" like it means something, but the fact is they never entered U.S. airspace.
Yes, they stayed in international airspace. I doubt even Putin is crazy enough to order his forces to enter our territorial airspace.

I understand that you are getting all worked up over this, but our guys did their job and no shots were fired.

Again, the real story here is the increase in intrusions.
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Well, I guess if one must make a trap landing in an S-3...
He didn't have to. He's a former jet jockey and wanted to see what it was like to experience a trap landing. The fact that he's wearing a flight suit, mask and helmet is just standard.
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Old 08-08-2014, 10:14 AM   #72
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He didn't have to. He's a former jet jockey and wanted to see what it was like to experience a trap landing. The fact that he's wearing a flight suit, mask and helmet is just standard.
That's a pretty good reason for doing that.
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That's a pretty good reason for doing that.
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That's a pretty good reason for doing that.
Yes, it is. Obama would probably take a dinghy.
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I belive they have a certain number of aricraft up on patrol at any given time

also, i believe they always have a few aircraft and pilots designated and ready for scramble so they can be up in just a couple of minutes

I doubt we maintain continuous fighter jet patrols all around the vast expanses of Alaska and the Pacific Northwest. Instead I believe we have a number of jets on standby -- the jets are ready to go, and the pilots are nearly ready to (flight suit on etc.), and once the word comes in to scramble the plane is in the air within a couple minutes, and at full throttle.
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