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Old 08-15-2014, 11:39 AM  
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Police Militarization are you worried about it?

So I find this pretty alarming, most of us don't think about this sort of thing but i've been hearing about this going on for awhile now. I did a tour in Iraq about 5 years ago and I can say cops do NOT need MRAPS, grenade launchers, machine guns, and other stuff we used in a combat zone to do police work in the US. Especially in small towns which it seems a lot of this stuff is going.



'As Karl Bickel, a senior policy analyst with the Justice Department's Community Policing Services office, observes, police across America are being trained in a way that emphasizes force and aggression. He notes that recruit training favors a stress-based regimen that's modeled on military boot camp rather than on the more relaxed academic setting a minority of police departments still employ. The result, he suggests, is young officers who believe policing is about kicking ass rather than working with the community to make neighborhoods safer. Or as comedian Bill Maher reminded officers recently: "The words on your car, 'protect and serve,' refer to us, not you."

This authoritarian streak runs counter to the core philosophy that supposedly dominates twenty-first-century American thinking: community policing. Its emphasis is on a mission of "keeping the peace" by creating and maintaining partnerships of trust with and in the communities served. Under the community model, which happens to be the official policing philosophy of the U.S. government, officers are protectors but also problem solvers who are supposed to care, first and foremost, about how their communities see them. They don't command respect, the theory goes: they earn it. Fear isn't supposed to be their currency. Trust is.

Nevertheless, police recruiting videos, as in those from California's Newport Beach Police Department and New Mexico's Hobbs Police Department, actively play up not the community angle but militarization as a way of attracting young men with the promise of Army-style adventure and high-tech toys. Policing, according to recruiting videos like these, isn't about calmly solving problems; it's about you and your boys breaking down doors in the middle of the night.

SWAT's influence reaches well beyond that. Take the increasing adoption of battle-dress uniforms (BDUs) for patrol officers. These militaristic, often black, jumpsuits, Bickel fears, make them less approachable and possibly also more aggressive in their interactions with the citizens they're supposed to protect.

A small project at Johns Hopkins University seemed to bear this out. People were shown pictures of police officers in their traditional uniforms and in BDUs. Respondents, the survey indicated, would much rather have a police officer show up in traditional dress blues. Summarizing its findings, Bickel writes, "The more militaristic look of the BDUs, much like what is seen in news stories of our military in war zones, gives rise to the notion of our police being an occupying force in some inner city neighborhoods, instead of trusted community protectors."

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Old 08-15-2014, 11:48 AM   #2
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No, but I don't live in the inner city and/or view them as an occupying force, and I'm not a prepper or someone who thinks there's a plan in place to either reduce the population or instill martial law (which has been one of the popular conspiracy theories going on 12 or 13 years now...). I think it's in part a response to the level of danger they face. Maybe going too far? Could be, but not sure I'm qualified to say. And I think there's always been an element of Billy BadAss when it comes the police force. Don't think that's really anything new.
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:49 AM   #3
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Thousands of wild crazies are rioting and even burned down a QuikTrip. When the police start behaving like that, I'll start worrying about them more than these loonies on the streets.
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:49 AM   #4
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:49 AM   #5
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:50 AM   #6
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Still waaaaaay more scared of small town police than I am of city cops.
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:53 AM   #7
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Thousands of wild crazies are rioting and even burned down a QuikTrip. When the police start behaving like that, I'll start worrying about them more than these loonies on the streets.
"Thousands" is an extreme overstatement.
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:54 AM   #8
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:56 AM   #9
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Still waaaaaay more scared of small town police than I am of city cops.
Yeah me too. It's really difficult for a city cop to get away with anything. Small town cops are well known by the locals, have an extremely small force, and can basically cover for themselves if anything went wrong.
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:57 AM   #10
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I think a nationalized militant police force inevitable. Everyone and their brother knows someone who owns an AR-15. There is a mass shooting every week. What do we expect? This is the trade off guys. One way or another we are going to loose our freedom.
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Old 08-15-2014, 12:03 PM   #11
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If it gets to the point that grenade launchers, etc. are necessary, then the military needs to be called like the L.A. riots in 92.

Local police needs to be seen as community lovers for their power to have any effect. Otherwise we all know revolutionists win. It's just a matter of how many die first.
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Old 08-15-2014, 12:04 PM   #12
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As long as the motto in America is 'Guns For Everybody!!' that will include the police.

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The bigger guns on the street, the bigger the guns needed by law enforcement.
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Old 08-15-2014, 12:11 PM   #13
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As long as the motto in America is 'Guns For Everybody!!' that will include the police.

It has to

The bigger guns on the street, the bigger the guns needed by law enforcement.
Yep and that's a battle we will never be able to win. Ironically, we lose our freedom because of our inability to show any common sense when it comes to gun rights. The 4th amendment is nothing more than political bullshit being spoon fed to us. They absolutely own us on the this issue. We think guns guarantee our freedom but that is the exact opposite. Smart bombs will be considered homeland security in the next decade because of this bullshit and it's all for votes.
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Old 08-15-2014, 12:12 PM   #14
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Old 08-15-2014, 12:14 PM   #15
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I think a nationalized militant police force inevitable. Everyone and their brother knows someone who owns an AR-15. There is a mass shooting every week. What do we expect? This is the trade off guys. One way or another we are going to loose our freedom.
"Loose our freedom?"

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