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Old 08-11-2014, 07:40 AM  
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Sounds like St Louis went nuts. Lets loot some stores!!!

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Old 08-12-2014, 09:36 AM   #166
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Yes because it's perfectly ok to jump on someones car. Certainly that wouldn't hurt anything just a few thousand dollars in repairs or higher insurance rates, the innocent car owners choice.

Yeah go ahead and jump on my car. ****ing dirtbags.
Didn't say it was ok to do that. You're missing the real point here, which was the heavy police presence last night making things much worse.
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:39 AM   #167
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Yup. So you know what you do if your a good parent? Move the F out of that district.
If everyone moves out of a bad neighborhood then the systems that brought that neighborhood down in the first place will do the same thing to wherever these families move to.
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Old 08-12-2014, 09:44 AM   #168
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Why would someone loot a shoe store? WTF is that all about? 30 freaking people according to news. Wonder what tonight will be like over there.
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:05 AM   #169
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Guess which business didn't get looted and burned (at least not yet)???? Hmmmmmmm, AR15s might have some utility in our culture yet!!

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Old 08-12-2014, 10:07 AM   #170
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I don't think it's unreasonable to have a curfew for minors in Ferguson until the youth gone wild situation calms donw.
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:11 AM   #171
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Guess which business didn't get looted and burned (at least not yet)???? Hmmmmmmm, AR15s might have some utility in our culture yet!!

Wouldn't want to loot and burn the Tattoo parlor down we have some respect, word.
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:15 AM   #172
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:20 AM   #173
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Didn't say it was ok to do that. You're missing the real point here, which was the heavy police presence last night making things much worse.
What was 'much worse' last night?
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:21 AM   #174
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:24 AM   #175
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Still fixed on the looting from two nights ago, are we? The situation has moved on from that. Now we've got police trying to act like a military unit, looking at Ferguson residents as hostile threats. Now we've got guns pointed at people with their hands up, people holding hands. Now we've got media personnel being told to stop reporting or they'll be arrested. Now we've got blockades preventing people from entering or leaving the town.





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Old 08-12-2014, 10:27 AM   #176
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What was 'much worse' last night?
Poor language on my part. The police presence really ramped up the tension last night, making a scary & hectic scene out of what was just a demonstration march. The behavior of the citizens was decidedly "better" last night than the night before, when the riots & looting occurred, but that didn't stop police from using more foreceful crowd dispersal techniques than was warranted.
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:31 AM   #177
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So, the facts as we have them so far:

The cop came upon two 18 year olds walking in the street. Middle of street? Off to the side of the street?

Cop [presumably] told them to get out of street. What was said we don't know.

Pedestrians engage in discussion: what was said? We don't know.

Supposedly, one of the pedestrians is detained (to our knowledge he has no criminal history).

During the detaining of the pedestrian, an altercation takes place in which:

The policeman claims he was assaulted and a shot is fired inside the car. (Lots of speculation on what might have happened there).

According to eyewitness, 35 or so feet from the car, the officer fires and hits the 18 year old pedestrian in the leg. According to the eyewitness, the pedestrian falls, puts his arms in the air and then is shot 8 times (not confirmed)and removed from this plane of existence. Which is a tragedy.

I don't care much about the rioting. The family of the decedent has stated they don't want those actions linked to the memory of their son.

I care about what happened at the car and what led the officer to put possibly 8 more shots in a guy that it appears had, by eyewitnesses, surrendered.
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What was 'much worse' last night?
Not sure about worse, but I find it "interesting" that STL 5-Oh closed the airspace over the area to everything except 5-0h helicopters. And telling the media that they must leave area.

As a citizen, I want to know what the cops are doing and I'd rather have multiple sources for that info than STL PD.
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:39 AM   #179
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So, the facts as we have them so far:

The cop came upon two 18 year olds walking in the street. Middle of street? Off to the side of the street?

Cop [presumably] told them to get out of street. What was said we don't know.

Pedestrians engage in discussion: what was said? We don't know.

Supposedly, one of the pedestrians is detained (to our knowledge he has no criminal history).

During the detaining of the pedestrian, an altercation takes place in which:

The policeman claims he was assaulted and a shot is fired inside the car. (Lots of speculation on what might have happened there).

According to eyewitness, 35 or so feet from the car, the officer fires and hits the 18 year old pedestrian in the leg. According to the eyewitness, the pedestrian falls, puts his arms in the air and then is shot 8 times (not confirmed)and removed from this plane of existence. Which is a tragedy.

I don't care much about the rioting. The family of the decedent has stated they don't want those actions linked to the memory of their son.

I care about what happened at the car and what led the officer to put possibly 8 more shots in a guy that it appears had, by eyewitnesses, surrendered.
You forgot another fact, which is that they left Michael Brown's body lying in the street for four hours.

But, yeah, the key difference (which we may never know the truth about) is between the police office's account of what happened in the car and the eyewitness account of what happened:



The accounts are very different.
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:42 AM   #180
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So, the facts as we have them so far:

The cop came upon two 18 year olds walking in the street. Middle of street? Off to the side of the street?

Cop [presumably] told them to get out of street. What was said we don't know.

Pedestrians engage in discussion: what was said? We don't know.

Supposedly, one of the pedestrians is detained (to our knowledge he has no criminal history).

During the detaining of the pedestrian, an altercation takes place in which:

The policeman claims he was assaulted and a shot is fired inside the car. (Lots of speculation on what might have happened there).

According to eyewitness, 35 or so feet from the car, the officer fires and hits the 18 year old pedestrian in the leg. According to the eyewitness, the pedestrian falls, puts his arms in the air and then is shot 8 times (not confirmed)and removed from this plane of existence. Which is a tragedy.

I don't care much about the rioting. The family of the decedent has stated they don't want those actions linked to the memory of their son.

I care about what happened at the car and what led the officer to put possibly 8 more shots in a guy that it appears had, by eyewitnesses, surrendered.
You are missing the issue of whether or not the officer was responding to a shoplifting charge. That's part of why the QT was looted and 'SNITCH' was spray painted on the marquee. The spoilerized-for-language clip from Glory above might be hard to understand out of context, but the guy is saying that the cop wasn't responding to a call from QT because 'my homeboy' robbed the Ferguson Market, not QT. That's the defense. The cop couldn't have been responding to a call from snitching QT, 'dey was busy robbing another market who's down.
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