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Old 08-11-2014, 07:40 AM  
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Sounds like St Louis went nuts. Lets loot some stores!!!

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Old 08-14-2014, 09:11 AM   #376
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I saw a cop giving a press conference, ASKING for calm and peace. Pathetic. It's exactly what gives these wild crazies license to riot. You don't ASK for jack squat, you TELL. You DEMAND they simmer down or else you arrest them. Period. There is no justification for their outrageous behavior.


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Old 08-14-2014, 09:18 AM   #377
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Old 08-14-2014, 10:36 AM   #378
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Again, there isn't one black in Ferguson that would've helped that kid out in everyday life so why are they rioting when he's shot?
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Old 08-14-2014, 10:44 AM   #379
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Old 08-14-2014, 11:06 AM   #380
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Might have that issue at the outset but now it's us vs. them. And the "us" part is not limited to skin color.
Agreed.

St.Luis has ****ed this entire situation up. I don't know how anyone can watch that video and side with law enforcement.
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Old 08-14-2014, 11:07 AM   #381
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Again, there isn't one black in Ferguson that would've helped that kid out in everyday life so why are they rioting when he's shot?
Can you elaborate here? Help how?
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Old 08-14-2014, 11:10 AM   #382
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They're going after news crews and smashing equipment now?

Both sides have lost all composure at this point.
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Old 08-14-2014, 11:20 AM   #383
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Agreed.

St.Luis has ****ed this entire situation up. I don't know how anyone can watch that video and side with law enforcement.


I did see a couple of people throw bottles but no-one appeared to me to be doing anything to instigate that response. At that point, I think the police response was unnecessary.

The only real issue I saw was they were blocking a road.
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Old 08-14-2014, 11:52 AM   #384
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I found this amusing....

The headline and the story have some questionable wording, so i won't post it, but you can click on the link to see what Gilbert Arenas has to say about Al Sharpton....


http://www.tmz.com/2014/08/14/gilber...s-al-sharpton/
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:05 PM   #385
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Rand Paul agrees this is about race? http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/

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Old 08-14-2014, 12:24 PM   #386
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Rand Paul agrees this is about race? http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/
The newest trend is evidence-based sentencing. It, surprise surprise, leads to the poor and minorities receiving longer sentences.

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Old 08-14-2014, 12:30 PM   #387
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Much like the person who started all this violence by assaulting a cop, it's hard to feel sorry for someone who does something dumb enough to land themselves in prison. If you are involved in the drug trade you are assuming the risk. You are taking easy money on the risk that you could be incarcerated.

Should we re-evaluate sentancing, sure. But let's face it, the people doing time for drug offenses weren't going to cure cancer anyway. People who want to make a living in crime are going to find themselves in jail one way or another.
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:36 PM   #388
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If a suburban kid whose parents can afford a good lawyer gets caught dealing a few pounds of weed what do you think is going to happen to him vs. a poor black kid with no resources?

Non-violent drug offenders below massive dealer level shouldn't be in prison. It serves no valuable purpose to society other than to keep a lot of prison guards employed and prison contractors highly profitable.
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:50 PM   #389
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Rand Paul agrees this is about race? http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/
This is flabbergasting to me: Rand Paul, a Presidential hopeful who is going to need to rely on his main supporters (who tend to be pretty backwards when it comes to issues pertaining to race) in 2016, can see how race affects the situation in Ferguson AND all throughout our justice system...but a 2nd term black President can't so much as hint at race during a press conference about Ferguson.

Obama had nothing much to lose if he acknowledged race today. Rand Paul has lots he could lose with Republican voters by acknowledging race. Rand Paul scored major points with me today.
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If a suburban kid whose parents can afford a good lawyer gets caught dealing a few pounds of weed what do you think is going to happen to him vs. a poor black kid with no resources?
So the white kid received mercy, the black kid received justice. No one has received injustice.

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I specifically said we should re-evaluate sentencing. However, if you have enough contempt for the law to run an ongoing criminal enterprise I don't find myself caring much if you are locked up.
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