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Old 08-12-2014, 11:50 AM  
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World burns, Hill slams Obama, Obama teed off

Obama vacations as the world burns

By Dana Milbank
Washington Post
August 11 at 8:04 PM


President Obama must really be teed off.

Hillary Rodham Clinton, his once-loyal secretary of state and his likeliest successor, has gone rogue, criticizing his foreign policy as too timid.

Obama responded with not one but two rounds of golf.

Clinton, in an interview with Jeffrey Goldberg published by the Atlantic over the weekend, offered a withering comment on the Obama doctrine, described in shorthand by White House officials as “don’t do stupid s---.” Said Clinton: “Great nations need organizing principles, and ‘Don’t do stupid stuff’ is not an organizing principle.”

As the criticism became public, Obama was doggedly sticking with his plans to go on vacation — a decision that, if not in the category of stupid stuff, could fit under the heading of “tone deafness.”

Obama stood on the South Lawn on Saturday updating Americans on the new bombing campaign in Iraq — and then he boarded Marine One for a two-week trip to Martha’s Vineyard. There, half an hour after arriving at his vacation home, he was already on his way to a golf course. He played again Sunday, then had a beach outing Monday followed by a political fundraiser.

Even presidents need down time, and Obama can handle his commander-in-chief duties wherever he is. But his decision to proceed with his getaway just 36 hours after announcing the military action in Iraq risks fueling the impression that he is detached as the world burns.

The highly visible wartime vacation (Obama allowed himself to be photographed on a putting green Saturday with NBA star Ray Allen and retired pro-football player Ahmad Rashad) was not looking any better Monday as Iraq’s political crisis worsened, NATO’s chief declared a “high probability” of Russian military intervention in Ukraine and Gaza remained on a knife edge.

By Monday afternoon, the crises had forced Obama to revise his schedule. The White House announced that the president, after returning from the beach, would make an unscheduled statement about Iraq. He freshened up at his 8,100-square-foot vacation home, then stepped outside, in a blue blazer and open collar; his aides wisely chose a wooded backdrop rather than one with the infinity pool and the sweeping water views. Obama finished his four-minute statement and then hopped in his motorcade for the ride to a Democratic fundraiser.

Such visuals probably won’t help Obama with the 60 percent of Americans who disapprove of his handling of foreign policy. Even his former secretary of state is registering her disapproval.

Clinton, in the interview, took a harder line than the administration has on Iran, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Syria, saying she argued unsuccessfully for earlier arming and training of the Syrian opposition. “I know that the failure to help build up a credible fighting force . . . left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled,” she said.

She applied a bit of Clintonian triangulation to the foreign policies of Obama and George W. Bush, suggesting that there’s a just-right medium between the too-hot Bush policy and the too-cold Obama approach.

“I think part of the challenge is that our government too often has a tendency to swing between these extremes,” she said. She later added: “You know, when you’re down on yourself, and when you are hunkering down and pulling back, you’re not going to make any better decisions than when you were aggressively, belligerently putting yourself forward.”

The no-confidence vote from Clinton (who, as luck would have it, also will be on Martha’s Vineyard this week) comes as Obama is smarting from criticism by hawks that the current mess in Iraq might not have occurred if he had kept U.S. troops there. “That entire analysis is bogus and is wrong,” the president said Saturday. “But it gets frequently peddled around here by folks who oftentimes are trying to defend previous policies that they themselves made.”

It’s understandable that Obama would want to get away from it all, but for a president struggling to build support for his foreign policy, vacationing during a crisis is no day at the beach.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest reminded reporters Friday that Obama was traveling to the Vineyard “with an array of communications” and advisers. But when it came time for the president to speak, there was a 20-minute delay because the TV feed didn’t work, and when he finally spoke, the audio and video quality was poor.

Obama gave an update on progress toward “the limited military objectives” against the Islamic State in Iraq, and he praised the naming of a new prime minister. But he didn’t mention that the current one, Nouri al-Maliki, is refusing to surrender power, setting up a showdown.

Criticism from Clinton. War with the Islamic State. Trouble with Maliki. It’s enough to make a man hook his drive into the sand trap.
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Old 08-13-2014, 10:58 AM   #61
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Source for such allegations?

And what was the time frame for the presidents from what to what?
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:01 AM   #62
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Source for such allegations?

And what was the time frame for the presidents from what to what?
https://news.yahoo.com/obama-s-vacat...211532262.html

This is where is came from but I didn't read the story.
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:07 AM   #63
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https://news.yahoo.com/obama-s-vacat...211532262.html

This is where is came from but I didn't read the story.

As I suspected, they are totaling all 8 years of the Bush Presidency and Obama totals are just over 6 years.
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:42 AM   #64
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https://news.yahoo.com/obama-s-vacat...211532262.html

This is where is came from but I didn't read the story.
Very liberal reporter also, I want a better source then that obama sucking liberal.
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:51 AM   #65
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Obama doesn't own a vacation home like Bush did/does. The vast majority of those "days on vacation" were spent at Bush's ranch outside Waco.
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:59 AM   #66
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A vacation is a vacation. It means a person vacates their typical duties to a degree.

Now if we condemning spending, well then have at it.
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Old 08-13-2014, 12:01 PM   #67
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Again, it's silly. POTUS is never truly "on vacation." Not Bush. Not Obama.
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Old 08-13-2014, 12:11 PM   #68
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I've never understood the issue with a President being on "vacation." As numerous have said already, they are never REALLY on vacation. They are just running the country from a different location.
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Old 08-13-2014, 12:30 PM   #69
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Regulars at the Vineyard Golf Club in Martha’s Vineyard were gob-smacked when President Obama unexpectedly strolled onto a nearby green and they were immediately frisked. “There was no warning he was coming,” sniffed a guest.

“There was security on the way in, but no word as to why they were there.” The member added, “While eating, overlooking the golf course, guests had to stand up and be wanded.” One asked if he could finish his hot soup first, and an Obama security man cracked, ominously, “So, you’re not cooperating?”

But Obama did, “go around and shake everyone’s hand waiting on the course.” His vacation’s been called “tone deaf” by some during new military action in Iraq.


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Old 08-13-2014, 12:32 PM   #70
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I saw this article earlier and it noted that the above numbers do not include visits to the Camp David presidential retreat.

Obama - 33 Camp David visits, 84 days
Bush - 108 Camp David visits, 341 days (JFC!)

Almost a year on "vacation" and almost a year on Camp David. WTF?
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Old 08-13-2014, 12:34 PM   #71
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As I suspected, they are totaling all 8 years of the Bush Presidency and Obama totals are just over 6 years.
Wrong.

"At this point in George W. Bush’s presidency..."
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Old 08-13-2014, 12:49 PM   #72
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Wrong.

"At this point in George W. Bush’s presidency..."

That's a lie.
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Again, it's silly. POTUS is never truly "on vacation." Not Bush. Not Obama.
I agree... I just think "the optics" of this is bad. And I thought the same of Bush when he did the same.
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Old 08-13-2014, 12:57 PM   #74
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I agree... I just think "the optics" of this is bad. And I thought the same of Bush when he did the same.
They should really wait until there are no problems anywhere in the country or world before doing these "vacations."
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Old 08-13-2014, 01:03 PM   #75
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I honestly don't give a crap about politicians taking so much vacation time. Because it just means they aren't screwing with our lives via law making ro creating suffocating regulations. However, having said that, most Americans are lucky to get a week or two off each work year and these congressmen/women, President and others are out of vacation control.

Bush, Obama, Reid, McConnell all of the politicians are just living the high life while the rest of us have to actually work for a living. The sad part of this is we pay them and justify their supposed "need" for massive vacation time. I say BULL#$*!. I know for a fact that a lot of Americans work longer harder hours and work in just as stressful or even more so than these money grubbing soul suckers and don't get adequate vacation time. SCREW THEM ALL!
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