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Old 08-25-2000, 08:05 AM  
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I don't care that it's preseason, I want to see fire in these guys to win. Winning is an attitude. And so is losing. I can not believe this quote from the Star.

"TAMPA, Fla. -- The Chiefs have a few things on their to-do list for tonight's final preseason game against Tampa Bay at Raymond James Stadium.

Winning is near the bottom, somewhere in small type, if it's there at all.

This is a horse**** way to look at preseason. Preseason is should be used for more than just player evaluation. You must get a team used to winning. Plus how can you truly evaluate a player if you do not know what kind winning attitude he has. Tony G. is the only Chief I have read about who seems to give a flip about winning. To quote.."To some players, like tight end Tony Gonzalez, winning carries some significance.

"It's always No. 1 for me, even in the preseason," Gonzalez said. "It's the first goal every time. I hope that's the attitude of this team. I think it is. That's what we say before every game we go out there. We bring the team together before every game and it's either `Chiefs' or `A win.'


It is not the attitude of YOUR FRICKEN COACHES!


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Old 08-25-2000, 08:14 AM   #2
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I'm with you there Duck. I don't give a hoot nor holler for guys that don't at least play to win. I mean sure these games don't count, But winning does set an attitude to start the season.
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Old 08-25-2000, 08:35 AM   #3
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Last night on Sportscenter they were talking about the fact that teams that go undefeated in the preseason almost ALWAYS make the playoffs.

IMO that's becasue they make winning a habit YEAR-ROUND!

At least Gonzo doesn't have his head in his arse!!

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Old 08-25-2000, 08:41 AM   #4
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I agree 100%. Teams are capable of WINNING and EVALUATING TALENT. Take the Jags for example. They game plan BOTH offensively and defensively for EVERY preseason game. They also execute that plan no matter where the players are on the depth chart. IMHO, the Chiefs are in the Dark Ages when it comes to the "proper" way to approach preseason. More prone to coming out FLAT rather than on a roll. Losing is also contageous and can be a mindset.
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Old 08-25-2000, 11:30 AM   #5
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IMHO, the Chiefs are in the dark ages in a lot of areas. But, this 'winning doesn't matter' crap is so bogus. It is a spin by Gun to the fans so we don't start worrying.

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Old 08-25-2000, 01:31 PM   #6
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Winning preseason is not important to the coaching staff, but it is definitely important to the players.

If you're an athlete, hell, even if you're just a competitor, you never want to lose. Coaches don't give a $hit about preseason because their job's aren't on the line. However, players starting job's are. That's what conern's me. Players should be giving 100% no matter what game it is.

Player's take their cue from the coaching staff about attitude. So if the staff doesn't give a $hit, why should the player's. All that best stop tonight, or you'll see a horrific carryover into week 1 against Indy. Let me tell you, Indy will pick up on that quick and jump all over the Chiefs if their heads aren't straight.

GET EM" GOING GUN!!!!! NOW!!!!!

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Old 08-25-2000, 01:51 PM   #7
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Pre-season don't mean squat. Get over it.
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Old 08-25-2000, 02:02 PM   #8
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It would be nice to get a win in TB, butI would trade a loss for a healthy team next week.So far we have been fair in preseason,not to bad for not game planning.
I think its far more important to find are backups and special teamers as gun would say
"looking for a few good men"

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Old 08-25-2000, 02:16 PM   #9
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DR. Red - thanks for your in depth analysis.

It's a little deeper than "get over it". If attitudes on the field change tonight, then, I guess "I'll be over it".

Until then, we need to focus on how to win, just as much as we've proven how to lose. We have been perfecting this since the Seattle game last year.
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Old 08-25-2000, 02:22 PM   #10
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I'm not worried yet. This preseason we are working on our youmg WRs
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Old 08-25-2000, 02:28 PM   #11
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After tonight the records are 0-0. That's the whole point. It's silly and sad to get all worked up over something that means nothing.
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Old 08-25-2000, 02:32 PM   #12
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I wouldn't say I'm worried yet, but, it would be nice to taste victory again. It's been a while. I think a win tonight would give the team a mental lift that will carry over to the Colts game.
Winning and losing are both habit forming.
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Old 08-25-2000, 02:38 PM   #13
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Dr. -

Apparently you are missing my point. The W/L records me nothing to me personally. However, a teams attitude about winning and losing does. To play at their level and say you don't care is the same as getting your $ss beat every week.

If they lose with their heads in the game, and playing hard, I'm indifferent to the W/L. If they get beat on all phases of the game and look confused, I'm concerned. That's what I've been seeing for 3 straight games, excluding the 1st offensive and defensive series against Tenn.

This team has been playing without attitude and looking confused. Preseason, or not, that's a problem. Should they work that out tonight (win or lose), I'll feel much better about week #1 vs. Indy.
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Old 08-25-2000, 02:40 PM   #14
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From the [i]trying to be optimistic[/i] perspective:

After having lost all 4 preseason games, wouldn't the team be more 'hungry' to work to win in week 1?
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If we lose tonight, but then kick the heck out of Indy at home on opening game none of you will even care that there was a preseason.
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