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The Pussification Of The Western Male (long but worth it)

I thought this was a hilarious, frazod-like rant.

http://www.kimdutoit.com/index.htm

The Pussification Of The Western Male

We have become a nation of women.

It wasn't always this way, of course. There was a time when men put their signatures to a document, knowing full well that this single act would result in their execution if captured, and in the forfeiture of their property to the State. Their wives and children would be turned out by the soldiers, and their farms and businesses most probably given to someone who didn't sign the document.

There was a time when men went to their certain death, with expressions like "You all can go to hell. I'm going to Texas." (Davy Crockett, to the House of Representatives, before going to the Alamo.)

There was a time when men went to war, sometimes against their own families, so that other men could be free. And there was a time when men went to war because we recognized evil when we saw it, and knew that it had to be stamped out.

There was even a time when a President of the United States threatened to punch a man in the face and kick him in the balls, because the man had the temerity to say bad things about the President's daughter's singing.

We're not like that anymore.

Now, little boys in grade school are suspended for playing cowboys and Indians, cops and crooks, and all the other familiar variations of "good guy vs. bad guy" that helped them learn, at an early age, what it was like to have decent men hunt you down, because you were a lawbreaker.

Now, men are taught that violence is bad -- that when a thief breaks into your house, or threatens you in the street, that the proper way to deal with this is to "give him what he wants", instead of taking a horsewhip to the rascal or shooting him dead where he stands.

Now, men's fashion includes not a man dressed in a three-piece suit, but a tight sweater worn by a man with breasts.

Now, warning labels are indelibly etched into gun barrels, as though men have somehow forgotten that guns are dangerous things.

Now, men are given Ritalin as little boys, so that their natural aggressiveness, curiosity and restlessness can be controlled, instead of nurtured and directed.

And finally, our President, who happens to have been a qualified fighter pilot, lands on an aircraft carrier wearing a flight suit, and is immediately dismissed with words like "swaggering", "macho" and the favorite epithet of Euro girly-men, "cowboy". Of course he was bound to get that reaction -- and most especially from the Press in Europe, because the process of male pussification Over There is almost complete.

How did we get to this?

In the first instance, what we have to understand is that America is first and foremost, a culture dominated by one figure: Mother. It wasn't always so: there was a time when it was Father who ruled the home, worked at his job, and voted.

But in the twentieth century, women became more and more involved in the body politic, and in industry, and in the media -- and mostly, this has not been a good thing. When women got the vote, it was inevitable that government was going to become more powerful, more intrusive, and more "protective" (ie. more coddling), because women are hard-wired to treasure security more than uncertainty and danger. It was therefore inevitable that their feminine influence on politics was going to emphasize (lowercase "s") social security.

I am aware of the fury that this statement is going to arouse, and I don't care a fig.

What I care about is the fact that since the beginning of the twentieth century, there has been a concerted campaign to denigrate men, to reduce them to figures of fun, and to render them impotent, figuratively speaking.

I'm going to illustrate this by talking about TV, because TV is a reliable barometer of our culture.

In the 1950s, the TV Dad was seen as the lovable goofball -- perhaps the beginning of the trend -- BUT he was still the one who brought home the bacon, and was the main source of discipline (think of the line: "Wait until your father gets home!").

From that, we went to this: the Cheerios TV ad.

Now, for those who haven't seen this piece of shit, I'm going to go over it, from memory, because it epitomizes everything I hate about the campaign to pussify men. The scene opens at the morning breakfast table, where the two kids are sitting with Dad at the table, while Mom prepares stuff on the kitchen counter. The dialogue goes something like this:

Little girl (note, not little boy): Daddy, why do we eat Cheerios?
Dad: Because they contain fiber, and all sorts of stuff that's good for the heart. I eat it now, because of that.
LG: Did you always eat stuff that was bad for your heart, Daddy?
Dad (humorously): I did, until I met your mother.
Mother (not humorously): Daddy did a lot of stupid things before he met your mother.

Now, every time I see that TV ad, I have to be restrained from shooting the TV with a .45 Colt. If you want a microcosm of how men have become less than men, this is the perfect example.

What Dad should have replied to Mommy's little dig: Yes, Sally, that's true: I did do a lot of stupid things before I met your mother. I even slept with your Aunt Ruth a few times, before I met your mother.

That's what I would have said, anyway, if my wife had ever attempted to castrate me in front of the kids like that. But that's not what men do, of course. What this guy is going to do is smile ruefully, finish his cereal, and then go and **** his secretary, who doesn't try to cut his balls off on a daily basis. Then, when the affair is discovered, people are going to rally around the castrating bitch called his wife, and call him all sorts of names. He'll lose custody of his kids, and they will be brought up by our ultimate modern-day figure of sympathy: The Single Mom.

You know what? Some women deserve to be single moms.

When I first started this website, I think my primary aim was to blow off steam at the stupidity of our society.

Because I have fairly set views on what constitutes right and wrong, I have no difficulty in calling Bill Clinton, for example, a ****ing liar and hypocrite.

But most of all, I do this website because I love being a man. Amongst other things, I talk about guns, self-defense, politics, beautiful women, sports, warfare, hunting, and power tools -- all the things that being a man entails. All this stuff gives me pleasure.

And it doesn't take much to see when all the things I love are being threatened: for instance, when Tim Allen's excellent comedy routine on being a man is reduced to a ****ing sitcom called Home Improvement. The show should have been called Man Improvement, because that's what every single plotline entailed: turning a man into a "better" person, instead of just leaving him alone to work on restoring the vintage sports car in his garage. I stopped watching the show after about four episodes.

("The Man Show" was better, at least for the first season -- men leering at chicks, men ****ing around with ridiculous games like "pin the bra on the boobies", men having beer-drinking competitions, and women on trampolines. Excellent stuff, only not strong enough. I don't watch it anymore, either, because it's plain that the idea has been subverted by girly-men, and turned into a parody of itself.)

Finally, we come to the TV show which to my mind epitomizes everything bad about what we have become: Queer Eye For The Straight Guy. Playing on the homo Bravo Channel, this piece of excrement has taken over the popular culture by storm (and so far, the only counter has been the wonderful South Park episode which took it apart for the bullshit it is).

I'm sorry, but the premise of the show nauseates me. A bunch of homosexuals trying to "improve" ordinary men into something "better" (ie. more acceptable to women): changing the guy's clothes, his home decor, his music -- for ****'s sake, what kind of girly-man would allow these simpering butt-bandits to change his life around?

Yes, the men are, by and large, slobs. Big ****ing deal. Last time I looked, that's normal. Men are slobs, and that only changes when women try to civilize them by marriage. That's the natural order of things.

You know the definition of homosexual men we used in Chicago? "Men with small dogs who own very tidy apartments."

Real men, on the other hand, have big ****ing mean-ass dogs: Rhodesian ridgebacks, bull terriers and Rottweilers, or else working dogs like pointers or retrievers which go hunting with them and slobber all over the furniture.

Women own lapdogs.

Which is why women are trying to get dog-fighting and cock-fighting banned -- they'd ban boxing too, if they could -- because it's "mean and cruel". No shit, Shirley. Hell, I don't like the idea of fighting dogs, either, but I don't have a problem with men who do. Dogs and cocks fight. So do men. No wonder we have an affinity for it.

My website has become fairly popular with men, and in the beginning, this really surprised me, because I didn't think I was doing anything special.

That's not what I think now. I must have had well over five thousand men write to me to say stuff like "Yes! I agree! I was so angry when I read about [insert atrocity of choice], but I though I was the only one."

No, you're not alone, my friend, and nor am I.

Out there, there is a huge number of men who are sick of it. We're sick of being made figures of fun and ridicule; we're sick of having girly-men like journalists, advertising agency execs and movie stars decide on "what is a man"; we're sick of women treating us like children, and we're really ****ing sick of girly-men politicians who pander to women by passing an ever-increasing raft of Nanny laws and regulations (the legal equivalent of public-school Ritalin), which prevent us from hunting, racing our cars and motorcycles, smoking, flirting with women at the office, getting into fistfights over women, shooting criminals and doing all the fine things which being a man entails.

When Annika Sorenstam was allowed to play in that tournament on the men's PGA tour, all the men should have refused to play -- Vijay Singh was the only one with balls to stand up for a principle, and he was absolutely excoriated for being a "chauvinist". Bullshit. He wasn't a chauvinist, he was being a man. All the rest of the players -- Woods, Mickleson, the lot -- are girls by comparison. And, needless to say, Vijay isn't an American, nor a European, which is probably why he still has a pair hanging between his legs, and they're not hanging on the wall as his wife's trophy.

**** this, I'm sick of it.

I don't see why I should put up with this bullshit any longer -- hell, I don't see why any man should put up with this bullshit any longer.

I don't see why men should have become feminized, accept that we allowed it to happen -- and you know why we let it happen? Because it's goddamned easier to do so. Unfortunately, we've allowed it to go too far, and our maleness has become too pussified for words.

At this point, I could have gone two ways: the first would be to say, "...and I don't know if we'll get it back. The process has become too entrenched, the cultural zeitgeist of men as girls has become part of the social fabric, and there's not much we can do about it."

But I'm not going to do that. To quote John Belushi (who was, incidentally, a real man and not a ****ing woman): "Did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

Well, I'm not going to quit. **** that. One of the characteristics of the non-pussified man (and this should strike fear into the hearts of women and girly-men everywhere) is that he never quits just because the odds seem overwhelming. Omaha Beach, guys.

I want a real man as President -- not Al Gore, who had to hire a consultant to show him how to be an Alpha male, and french-kiss his wife on live TV to "prove" to the world that he was a man, when we all knew that real men don't have to do that shit.

And I want the Real Man President to surround himself with other Real Men, like Rumsfeld, and Ashcroft, and yes, Rice (who is more of a Real Man than those asswipes Colin Powell and Norman Mineta).

I want our government to be more like Dad -- kind, helpful, but not afraid to punish us when we **** up, instead of helping us excuse our actions.

I want our government of real men to start rolling back the Nanny State, in all its horrible manifestations of over-protectiveness, intrusiveness and "Mommy Knows Best What's Good For You" regulations.

I want our culture to become more male -- not the satirical kind of male, like The Man Show, or the cartoonish figures of Stallone, Van Damme or Schwartzenegger. (Note to the Hollywood execs: We absolutely ****ing loathe chick movies about feelings and relationships and all that feminine jive. We want more John Waynes, Robert Mitchums, Bruce Willises, and Clint Eastwoods. Never mind that it's simplistic -- we like simple, we are simple, we are men -- our lives are uncomplicated, and we like it that way. We Were Soldiers was a great movie, and you know why? Because you could have cut out all the female parts, and it still would have been a great movie, because it was about Real Men. Try cutting out all the female parts in a Woody Allen movie -- you'd end up with the opening and closing credits.)

I want our literature to become more male, less female. Men shouldn't buy "self-help" books unless the subject matter is car maintenance, golf swing improvement or how to disassemble a ****ing Browning BAR. We don't improve ourselves, we improve our stuff.

And finally, I want men everywhere to going back to being Real Men. To open doors for women, to drive fast cars, to smoke cigars after a meal, to get drunk occasionally and, in the words of Col. Jeff Cooper, one of the last of the Real Men: "to ride, shoot straight, and speak the truth."

In every sense of the word. We know what the word "is" means.

Because that's all that being a Real Man involves. You don't have to become a ****ing cartoon male, either: I'm not going back to stoning women for adultery like those Muslim assholes do, nor am I suggesting we support that perversion of being a Real Man, gangsta rap artists (those ****ing pussies -- they wouldn't last thirty seconds against a couple of genuine tough guys that I know).

Speaking of rap music, do you want to know why more White boys buy that crap than Black boys do? You know why rape is such a problem on college campuses? Why binge drinking is a problem among college freshmen?

It's a reaction: a reaction against being pussified. And I understand it, completely. Young males are aggressive, they do fight amongst themselves, they are destructive, and all this does happen for a purpose.

Because only the strong men propagate.

And women know it. You want to know why I know this to be true? Because powerful men still attract women. Women, even liberal women, swooned over George Bush in a naval aviator's uniform. Donald Trump still gets access to some of the most beautiful pussy available, despite looking like a medieval gargoyle. Donald Rumsfeld, if he wanted to, could **** 90% of all women over 50 if he wanted to, and a goodly portion of younger ones too.

And he won't. Because Rummy's been married to the same woman for fifty years, and he wouldn't toss that away for a quickie. He's a Real Man. No wonder the Euros hate and fear him.

We'd better get more like him, we'd better become more like him, because if we don't, men will become a footnote to history.
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Old 11-06-2003, 08:22 PM   #106
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The problem I have with this whole concept is that you have to allow yourself to become the person that this article is describing.

If you want to be treated like a man, act like a man.

Solve your own confrontations face to face with either a handshake or a fist fight, if you want to stir shit, don't hide behind authority put in place to serve the weak and innocent.

Be there for those special people in your life with a hug to comfort them or a shotgun and a baseball bat to protect them whether it's convient or not.

Shut your mouth and don't complain every time things aren't going your way like a 'woman' (just for the purpose of the article ladies) if you don't want to be percieved as one.

The fact that some are even arguing that society is 'forcing' them to become femenine is the definition of irony.


I know, I'm late.
I see we are going back a little further than before free choice comes into play.

Looking forward to reading this in the morning, I'm too far behind and its not somthing to be taken light-hearted. I'm bailing out.
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Old 11-06-2003, 08:23 PM   #107
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This entire Ritalin revolution has it's evil roots in the school's & with the doctors but ULTIMATELY it's the parents who ok the schools designation and the doctor's prescription.

I don't for one minute believe it's been some 'femi-nazi' conspiracy to drug our children in order to make boys less boys so they resemble girls. If this is the suggestion then you have to explain to me exactly how the 'women's movement' convinced schools and the medical industry to have parent's WILLINGLY drugging their children. You also have to explain to me how the parents escape blame or responsibility for the choices they make regarding both the drugging of their boys and the impulse to teach their boys to be feminine.
Ever hear of SRS? Don't think for a second these idiots in the schools won't call the authorities if you're not doing "what's in the best interest of your child." The feminists and the teacher's union are tied at the hip. A significant portion of teachers are feminists. Feminist doctrine will tell you that "All men are rapists and that's all they are" (Marilyn French, author of "The Women's Room"). What better way to slow down a rapist and oppressor than drugs?

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I have two boys. Their aggression and activity level sometimes makes me crazy but there is no way in hell would I allow a school system to recommend drugs for them nor would I follow a physician's advise to drug them. Nor would I allow any societial impulse to train them in a fashion that I disagree with.

Obviously you have parents CHOOSING to feminize their boys...if that is the case you can hardly blame the 'women's movement' for this choice. How many 'radical feminists' are holding guns to those parents heads?

Neither Gloria Allred or Phyllis Schaffley will have a say in what I teach my boys.
Not everyone agrees with you. You are to be commended for letting your boys become men.
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Old 11-06-2003, 08:24 PM   #108
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You quoting yourself? Otherwise, don't speak for me, I won't speak for you...
Well you dodged the point without your usual attempts.

Let me ask again. Why do you believe that people are so simple that they can be controlled by a radio personality but so intelligent that they cannot be controlled by feminazis? Or is it your core prejudiced belief that the right of this country are not as intelligent as the left?

*not expecting a real answer yet again*
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Ever hear of SRS? Don't think for a second these idiots in the schools won't call the authorities if you're not doing "what's in the best interest of your child." The feminists and the teacher's union are tied at the hip. A significant portion of teachers are feminists. Feminist doctrine will tell you that "All men are rapists and that's all they are" (Marilyn French, author of "The Women's Room"). What better way to slow down a rapist and oppressor than drugs?


Not everyone agrees with you. You are to be commended for letting your boys become men.

I have yet to hear of a case of a parent losing their child for refusing to place them on Ritalin. This whole Ritialin epidemic is not about feminists but about LAZY ASSED PARENTS...

Feminists can be blamed for some really stoooopid policies and views but this is really not one of them.
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Well you dodged the point without your usual attempts.

Let me ask again. Why do you believe that people are so simple that they can be controlled by a radio personality but so intelligent that they cannot be controlled by feminazis? Or is it your core prejudiced belief that the right of this country are not as intelligent as the left?

*not expecting a real answer yet again*
Russ, the people being sheparded by Rush Limbaugh have the intelligence to think for themselves...they CHOOSE not to use it. It's so much easier for them to tune in 3 hours, five days a week to be told how to think...

sheesh, he has more mind control time and availability than most ministers do. Most people don't spend more than an hour a week in church. Limbaugh's listeners get him 15 hours a week if they want.
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I have yet to hear of a case of a parent losing their child for refusing to place them on Ritalin. This whole Ritialin epidemic is not about feminists but about LAZY ASSED PARENTS...

Feminists can be blamed for some really stoooopid policies and views but this is really not one of them.
OOOOhhh reeeeaaaallly...

http://www.newsmax.com/commentarchiv...00/8/16/195158

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One of the scariest stories in the news is receiving very little attention. According to USA Today, parents are being put under pressure by schools and by courts to have their children drugged with Ritalin. Some parents have been threatened with charges of child neglect or abuse - and having the child taken away by the authorities - if they do not give their children Ritalin.
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It's so much easier for them to tune in 3 hours, five days a week to be told how to think...
Isn't that Sean Hannity?
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It appears your link is a commentary, meaning opinion piece, with little to back up the assertion or allegation.

I'm not saying this has not happened. I'm saying its not the primary reason why parents choose Ritalin. I'd home school my kids before I'd allow the school system to force drugs on my kids. Do you have the USA Today article?

That piece is a scare tactic cloaked with anti-feminist rhetoric and few specifics.

see this:
'Some schools are teaching various techniques of homosexual acts and some have gay activists visiting the schools, passing out cards giving the addresses of local homosexual hangouts.'

Puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeese.
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Russ, the people being sheparded by Rush Limbaugh have the intelligence to think for themselves...they CHOOSE not to use it. It's so much easier for them to tune in 3 hours, five days a week to be told how to think...

sheesh, he has more mind control time and availability than most ministers do. Most people don't spend more than an hour a week in church. Limbaugh's listeners get him 15 hours a week if they want.
Why wouldn't the same be true of the idiots listening to the feminazis day after day? Why wouldn't people want someone telling them how to raise their kids if they want to have someone tell them how to vote?

Denise, fact is that you are hypocritically inconsistent on this topic. What is sad is that I agree with you, we are not as easily led as some make us out to be. Unfortunately, our agreement ends there as you believe that only the left is not so easily led.

For some reason, you believe those who listen to the right wing to be of lesser intelligence than those who listen to the left. You raise the most ridiculous conspiracy theories I have ever read on this board and you have the nerve to gripe about this one. You need to change your signature to "as long as it's right, it's wrong".

You are as prejudiced as any KKK member alive - you just choose a different section of the populace to humiliate.
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Why wouldn't the same be true of the idiots listening to the feminazis day after day? Why wouldn't people want someone telling them how to raise their kids if they want to have someone tell them how to vote?

Denise, fact is that you are hypocritically inconsistent on this topic. What is sad is that I agree with you, we are not as easily led as some make us out to be. Unfortunately, our agreement ends there as you believe that only the left is not so easily led.

For some reason, you believe those who listen to the right wing to be of lesser intelligence than those who listen to the left. You raise the most ridiculous conspiracy theories I have ever read on this board. You need to change your signature to "as long as it's right, it's wrong".

You are as prejudiced as any KKK member alive - you just choose a different section of the populace to humiliate.
Russ, I said the folks have the intelligence. I said they CHOOSE not to use it.

Just like the parents who would succumb to teacher or doctor pressure to give their children drugs they INTUITIVELY KNOW is wrong. These parent's are choosing not to use their intelligence and are taking the easy way, cop out...

like Limbaugh's flock.
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Old 11-06-2003, 08:42 PM   #117
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It appears your link is a commentary, meaning opinion piece, with little to back up the assertion or allegation.

I'm not saying this has not happened. I'm saying its not the primary reason why parents choose Ritalin. I'd home school my kids before I'd allow the school system to force drugs on my kids. Do you have the USA Today article?

That piece is a scare tactic cloaked with anti-feminist rhetoric and few specifics.
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ALBANY, NY - When seven-year-old Kyle Carroll of Berne, New York, was diagnosed by a psychologist as having ADHD, a prescription for Ritalin was not far behind. The child soon exhibited two of the drug's common side effects, sleeplessness and appetite loss, and his parents advised school officials that they wanted to temporarily discontinue the medication. The result was a visit from Albany County Child Protective Services, a petition to appear in court, and ultimately, what amounted to an order from Family Court Judge Gerard E. Maney to resume using the Ritalin.
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Salon reported:(1) "public schools have begun to issue ultimatums to parents of hard-to-handle kids, saying they will not allow students to attend conventional classes unless they are medicated. In the most extreme cases, parents unwilling to give their kids drugs are being reported by their schools to local offices of Child Protective Services, the implication being that by withholding drugs, the parents are guilty of neglect."


Didn't take long to find an actual case, and Salon is hardly a conservative rag...
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"Now, men are taught that violence is bad -- that when a thief breaks into your house, or threatens you in the street, that the proper way to deal with this is to "give him what he wants", instead of taking a horsewhip to the rascal or shooting him dead where he stands."

There are two commercials on TV for an alarm company where an intruder breaks a window and sets off the alarm. Of course, the alarm scares the intruder off, which is the point of the commercial.

In one commercial, the family is a mother and two children. The mother quickly herds her kids upstairs. In the other commercial, the father is there, too. And, just like mommy, he also herds the kids upstairs.

RUN, FORREST, RUN!

Here we have our metrosexual posterboy. Programmed to believe that violence is wrong and that the authorities and his trusty alarm system will protect him. Run upstairs, trap yourselves just like the stupid little sluts in the slasher movies, wait for the police to save the day. They'll be there in 5 to 15 minutes, if you're lucky.

Of course, in real life, the intruder KNOWS how long it takes the cops to show up. Maybe he doesn't run away. Alarm systems come with window stickers that announce the presence of an alarm. Anyone motivated enough to break into your house AFTER seeing the sticker on the window might not run away when the siren goes off.

A lot of horrible shit can happen to metrosexual man and his family in a few seconds, let alone five minutes.

Well, I have an alarm, for one reason only. To give me a heads up that it's time to grabbed one of my LOCKED AND LOADED GUNS so that I can KILL THE ****ER WHO'S BREAKING INTO MY HOUSE.

Of course, metrosexual man is scared of guns, because guns are evil.

So are lots of other people out there who have metrosexual man's little pussy ass in their gunsights.


This is my first little snippet - there will certainly be more.
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Russ, I said the folks have the intelligence. I said they CHOOSE not to use it.

Just like the parents who would succumb to teacher or doctor pressure to give their children drugs they INTUITIVELY KNOW is wrong. These parent's are choosing not to use their intelligence and are taking the easy way, cop out...

like Limbaugh's flock.
You also said that people are not making decisions based upon feminazi's actions but are doing so based upon Limbaugh's actions. Sorry, it is nothing but hypocrisy, not matter how to try to explain it.
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Well, I have an alarm, for one reason only. To give me a heads up that it's time to grabbed one of my LOCKED AND LOADED GUNS so that I can KILL THE ****ER WHO'S BREAKING INTO MY HOUSE.

Of course, metrosexual man is scared of guns, because guns are evil.
Thieves will admit the worst sound when breaking into a house is NOT an alarm. It's the sound of a shotgun being racked.
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