What's with Chester?

WarPaint · 08-31-2000, 09:59 AM

I read that Chester has missed practice this week. He is only the probable starter? I thought he only had the wind knocked out of him against Tampa. Is this another case of the Chiefs downplaying a more serious injury ala Dan Williams and his 4 week bronchitis last year? I don't think Chester is all that great, but he is our best DT, we need him to bring the heat on Manning.

Raiderhater · 08-31-2000, 10:01 AM

They are saying 'bruised ribs', and that he'll probably be ready, but if you remember in 1998, they downplayed his back and he was out the majority of the season.

We need Chester in there earning his multi millions.

BIG_DADDY · 08-31-2000, 11:11 AM

"I don't think Chester is all that great, ..."

He requires a double team every single play and still gets in the backfield sometimes. If he's not up to snuff, we're gonna have a hard time of it.

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WarPaint · 08-31-2000, 11:21 AM

At 4 mil a year Chester should get more than 1 sack. Sapp gets double and triple teamed and gets the job done.

Anyone really think Chester is worth the 4 mil?

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-31-2000, 11:33 AM

Is browning starting for dan williams still? i did not get to watch the last preseason game but heard some of it on the radio and i did not hear browning's name called on any defensive plays. did he have a good game?

Cannibal · 08-31-2000, 11:36 AM

Gun said that Chet said if the game were today, he would be ready to go. Shouldn't be that big of a thing. They're just being careful...

WarPaint · 08-31-2000, 11:51 AM

He is listed as "questionable", not "probable". Whenever Chiefs are questionable they usually don't play. More useless smoke and mirrors by Gun?

08-31-2000, 12:05 PM

Chiefnj:

Yeah, I think Chester is worth it. And this "expert" would agree.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR>Defense
Defensive linemen: Defensive tackle Chester McGlockton, despite his tendency to jump offside, should have been in the Pro Bowl last year. His play wasn't reflected in numbers -- he had only 1½ sacks and 81 total tackles -- but he consistently occupied two blockers and created opportunities for teammates.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

taken from ESPN's KC preview.

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redbrian · 08-31-2000, 12:41 PM

Sapp doesn't simply "occupy" 1 or 2 offensive linemen to give others a chance at a sack. He GETS the sacks, despite being the premier DT in the league. No DL in football gets more attention, but he still cannot be stopped. Glock isn't even in the same ballpark.

Ever hear of painkillers, Chester?

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08-31-2000, 01:25 PM

Clint:

Of the TB games I've watched, they double team Sapp for about 2 plays, until the QB gets crushed by the other player that's unaccounted for. Sapp gets sacks because they can't double team him every play. Now that Chester has a supporting cast to do the same, he'll look alot better.

It seems funny that you and the other Chester-bashers around here know more about football than the people that get paid to analyze it. Get ready to eat crow, friend.

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Cannibal · 08-31-2000, 01:28 PM

I don't understand the Chester bashing either. The guy said he would play. This is just like people ripping him for having the ingrown toenail in training camp, ripping him assuming he would skip practice, even though he did not.

htismaqe · 08-31-2000, 01:37 PM

We all need to understand that in the main, the Chester bashers are also the Peterson bashers.

Chester being not worth his money is something they can use against Carl.

This is a position justified not reasoned.

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Cannibal · 08-31-2000, 01:40 PM

Chester is worth every penny. Now Dan Williams, that's the guy we should be looking at as a waste of cap space. Carl had the right idea in '98. Too bad he gave in...

redbrian · 08-31-2000, 01:41 PM

As soon as Chester logs 15 sacks in a season (I don't think he has 15 in the last 4 seasons combined), then we can reasonably compare him to Sapp. No matter who crushes the QB, the offense isn't going to focus on any Tampa DL but Sapp. The same can be said for Bryant Young, Jevon Kearse, etc.

BTW, I believe Sapp made about $5 million last year. Not bad, considering Sapp is worth much more than the $1 million difference between he and Glock, IMO.

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redbrian · 08-31-2000, 01:48 PM

IMO, and according to official stats (I wanted to put "official" in italics, but apparently that's beyond my realm of understanding), Williams actually outplayed Glock, but he didn't play enough downs to make his season totals very impressive. I definitely feel that he should be cut or traded for a 7th rounder...whatever it takes to get him off the roster if the cap allows.

I wish we had Keith Traylor and Tom Barndt at DT, along with an extra $7-8 million cap dollars per season in the bank.

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08-31-2000, 10:01 AM	#2
Raiderhater **** the Raiders Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: A Webb of chaos Casino cash: $2192021	They are saying 'bruised ribs', and that he'll probably be ready, but if you remember in 1998, they downplayed his back and he was out the majority of the season. We need Chester in there earning his multi millions.
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08-31-2000, 11:11 AM	#3
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $5108410	"I don't think Chester is all that great, ..." He requires a double team every single play and still gets in the backfield sometimes. If he's not up to snuff, we're gonna have a hard time of it. ------------------ ... Remember when you're feeling very small and insecure how amazingly unlikely is your birth, and pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'coz there's bugger all down here on earth.
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08-31-2000, 11:21 AM	#4
WarPaint Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10004900	At 4 mil a year Chester should get more than 1 sack. Sapp gets double and triple teamed and gets the job done. Anyone really think Chester is worth the 4 mil?
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08-31-2000, 11:33 AM	#5
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $942813	Is browning starting for dan williams still? i did not get to watch the last preseason game but heard some of it on the radio and i did not hear browning's name called on any defensive plays. did he have a good game?
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08-31-2000, 11:36 AM	#6
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	Gun said that Chet said if the game were today, he would be ready to go. Shouldn't be that big of a thing. They're just being careful...
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08-31-2000, 09:59 AM
WarPaint Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10004900	I read that Chester has missed practice this week. He is only the probable starter? I thought he only had the wind knocked out of him against Tampa. Is this another case of the Chiefs downplaying a more serious injury ala Dan Williams and his 4 week bronchitis last year? I don't think Chester is all that great, but he is our best DT, we need him to bring the heat on Manning.
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08-31-2000, 11:51 AM	#7
WarPaint Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10004900	He is listed as "questionable", not "probable". Whenever Chiefs are questionable they usually don't play. More useless smoke and mirrors by Gun?
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08-31-2000, 12:05 PM	#8
AustinChief Guest Casino cash: $	Chiefnj: Yeah, I think Chester is worth it. And this "expert" would agree. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR>Defense Defensive linemen: Defensive tackle Chester McGlockton, despite his tendency to jump offside, should have been in the Pro Bowl last year. His play wasn't reflected in numbers -- he had only 1½ sacks and 81 total tackles -- but he consistently occupied two blockers and created opportunities for teammates.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> taken from ESPN's KC preview. ------------------ Parker [b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator[/b] [i]baked...not fried</I>
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08-31-2000, 12:41 PM	#9
redbrian Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	Sapp doesn't simply "occupy" 1 or 2 offensive linemen to give others a chance at a sack. He GETS the sacks, despite being the premier DT in the league. No DL in football gets more attention, but he still cannot be stopped. Glock isn't even in the same ballpark. Ever hear of painkillers, Chester? ------------------ This is my signature!! There are many like it but this one is mine!!
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08-31-2000, 01:25 PM	#10
AustinChief Guest Casino cash: $	Clint: Of the TB games I've watched, they double team Sapp for about 2 plays, until the QB gets crushed by the other player that's unaccounted for. Sapp gets sacks because they can't double team him every play. Now that Chester has a supporting cast to do the same, he'll look alot better. It seems funny that you and the other Chester-bashers around here know more about football than the people that get paid to analyze it. Get ready to eat crow, friend. ------------------ Parker [b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator[/b] [i]baked...not fried</I>
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08-31-2000, 01:28 PM	#11
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	I don't understand the Chester bashing either. The guy said he would play. This is just like people ripping him for having the ingrown toenail in training camp, ripping him assuming he would skip practice, even though he did not.
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08-31-2000, 01:37 PM	#12
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	We all need to understand that in the main, the Chester bashers are also the Peterson bashers. Chester being not worth his money is something they can use against Carl. This is a position justified not reasoned. Luz btw, how much does sapp make?...
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08-31-2000, 01:40 PM	#13
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	Chester is worth every penny. Now Dan Williams, that's the guy we should be looking at as a waste of cap space. Carl had the right idea in '98. Too bad he gave in...
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08-31-2000, 01:41 PM	#14
redbrian Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	As soon as Chester logs 15 sacks in a season (I don't think he has 15 in the last 4 seasons combined), then we can reasonably compare him to Sapp. No matter who crushes the QB, the offense isn't going to focus on any Tampa DL but Sapp. The same can be said for Bryant Young, Jevon Kearse, etc. BTW, I believe Sapp made about $5 million last year. Not bad, considering Sapp is worth much more than the $1 million difference between he and Glock, IMO. ------------------ This is my signature!! There are many like it but this one is mine!!
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08-31-2000, 01:48 PM	#15
redbrian Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	IMO, and according to official stats (I wanted to put "official" in italics, but apparently that's beyond my realm of understanding), Williams actually outplayed Glock, but he didn't play enough downs to make his season totals very impressive. I definitely feel that he should be cut or traded for a 7th rounder...whatever it takes to get him off the roster if the cap allows. I wish we had Keith Traylor and Tom Barndt at DT, along with an extra $7-8 million cap dollars per season in the bank. Oh well, like my dad told me when I was a kid: "Why don't you want in one hand and shit in the other, and see which one fills up first? [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/cool.gif[/img] ------------------ This is my signature!! There are many like it but this one is mine!!
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