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Old 09-08-2004, 05:15 PM  
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Wow, this is interesting - Possible Right Wing Fox Reporter Given Campaign Duties....

And he is too keep his job as a reporter on Fox.

I can't say who just yet, but it is a prominent host of Fox and he will keep his "day job" reporting his take while working full time as a campaign manager for the GWB/Cheney ticket.

What do you guys think? Moral, immoral, or unimportant?
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:29 PM   #16
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I knew you would fall for it.

Actually, it is CNN and Carville - You know, the "objective" CNN you were praising just yesterday.

So, let's do the math, shall we? If a news station allows a full time employee to be a full time campaign advisor, they don't care about objective journalism as they are an outlet for the party in question.


Watch the spinning begin, my friends. The hypocrite detector has been pushed to overload.
Heck, I fell for it too...
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:33 PM   #17
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Heck, I fell for it too...
When did Carville do anything for CNN but be a democratic shill? That's what he is paid to do.
Carl Cameron on the other hand is supposedly an objective reporter.

He's not supposed to be a Republican shill like Sean Hannity.
He's not supposed to be a Democratic shill like James Carville.

He supposed to be a reporter - something no one in their right mind would call Hannity and Carville.
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:33 PM   #18
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Heck, I fell for it too...
shuddap!!!

I caught the sarcasm in your first post.
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:35 PM   #19
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When did Carville do anything for CNN but be a democratic shill? That's what he is paid to do.
Carl Cameron on the other hand is supposedly an objective reporter.

He's not supposed to be a Republican shill like Sean Hannity.
He's not supposed to be a Democratic shill like James Carville.

He supposed to be a reporter - something no one in their right mind would call Hannity and Carville.
So, again, Cameron = Cameron's wife?
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:35 PM   #20
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shuddap!!!

I caught the sarcasm in your first post.
What sarcasm?

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Old 09-08-2004, 05:40 PM   #21
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I don't think I have ever commented on Carville playing a role in Kerry's campaign. Maybe you can point me to a post where I agreed with him doing such while still working for CNN. Aren't you just somewhat jumping to conclusions that I wholeheartedly agree with Carville doing both? And you call me the sucker, please.

Like I said in my earlier post. I'm on the fence. I would hope they could avoid the campaign rhetoric with their media employment.
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:40 PM   #22
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So, again, Cameron = Cameron's wife?
Until Fox News came along, that's distinction was meaningless when it comes to journalistic conflict of interests.
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:42 PM   #23
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I knew you would fall for it.

Actually, it is CNN and Carville - You know, the "objective" CNN you were praising just yesterday.

So, let's do the math, shall we? If a news station allows a full time employee to be a full time campaign advisor, they don't care about objective journalism as they are an outlet for the party in question.


Watch the spinning begin, my friends. The hypocrite detector has been pushed to overload.
Though I knew aboput Carville and Begala signing on with the Kerry campaign, I believed your topic header thinking that Fox just got even. Turns out your header was a LIE, sir. Are you going to admit that you lied?
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:42 PM   #24
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Until Fox News came along, that's distinction was meaningless when it comes to journalistic conflict of interests.
What in the world does that mean?

Are you implying that Cameron's reporting is influenced by his wife's involvment in the Bush campaign?
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:44 PM   #25
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..Fox just doesn't care about objective journalism at all because they are a propaganda outlet for the Republican party.
To paraphrase you jAZ, the liberal media outlets (MSNBC, CNN, The NY Times, The LA Times, etc) just doesn't care about objective journalism at all because they are a propaganda outlet for our party (the Democrats.)

That is at LEAST equally true, and you KNOW it...
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:44 PM   #26
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Until Fox News came along, that's distinction was meaningless when it comes to journalistic conflict of interests.
you are a small small pathetic little man...

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Old 09-08-2004, 05:53 PM   #27
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I don't think I have ever commented on Carville playing a role in Kerry's campaign. Maybe you can point me to a post where I agreed with him doing such while still working for CNN. Aren't you just somewhat jumping to conclusions that I wholeheartedly agree with Carville doing both? And you call me the sucker, please.

Like I said in my earlier post. I'm on the fence. I would hope they could avoid the campaign rhetoric with their media employment.
Carville isnt a reporter.

He's a Democratic advocate. That's his role. He's paid for his very biased policial opinion. Same is true of O'Reilly, Hannity, Colmes, etc.

Carl Cameron on the other hand is a reporter assigned to cover the man his wife is campaigning for. That's an amazing conflict of interest.

That same summer (2000) CNN had a producer that was supposed to cover the Gore campaign, but she was pulled from covering the campaign (neither Bush nor Gore) because of the possible conflict of interest (or the perception of a conflict of interest) because her husband was a lawyer for the Gore team.
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:55 PM   #28
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What in the world does that mean?

Are you implying that Cameron's reporting is influenced by his wife's involvment in the Bush campaign?
I'm saying that Fox doesn't care about jouralistic standards.
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:58 PM   #29
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I'm saying that Fox doesn't care about jouralistic standards.
I'm not a journalist.

Is there some journalistic standard that says that a reporter shouldn't cover a campaign if his or her spouse is part of that campaign?
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Old 09-08-2004, 05:58 PM   #30
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Though I knew aboput Carville and Begala signing on with the Kerry campaign, I believed your topic header thinking that Fox just got even. Turns out your header was a LIE, sir. Are you going to admit that you lied?
The only lie that matters is that he claimed it was a reporter. That it was Fox or CNN doesn't really matter to me.
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